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It'd make more sense to consolidate a lot of the codecies and use various methods to change army composition. (Traits, doctrines and leaders, or maybe an army trait you can buy for 50 points or something)
Then you could have more freedom to release smaller bite sized codecies like an AdMech codex or a Xenos and Mercs codex or something.,.














Assassins codex!

wilsjur wrote:
We need Hrud. They are cool and are the closest thing we'll have to 40k Skaven

Not any more... http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hrud#.UayLWdLVCB0

And I think we have enough races, even if half of them are IoM in some flavour.
Id rather have 16 up to date codexes!

Space Dwarves are coming back.

A supplement that has the rules for all the various minor alien factions would be nice. They could even combine it with Deathwatch.

Thyruss (or however you spell it) would be an interesting army; I don't think we have anything like it currently.

Hrud are not big enough of a threat to be made into a full blown army; from the fluff they appear to be a solidary race that are encountered in small groups. I do not recall reading about them being encountered in full force, except for that one time during the Great Crusade.

the Sslyth would be gnarly, but would probably fit better in a mercenary codex. Again Rak'gol. cant beat bionic radioactive scorpion marauders

 Griddlelol wrote:
No thanks. There are too many codices to update as it is. There are too many MEQ varieties and with FW there are even more humans and another load of MEQ.

The focus should be on making the rules balanced and the models awesome. Another race would just be there for the sake of it.

qft

I don't think we need any more new armies, but I do think we should just roll all the xenos into one big codex. Get yer xenos out of my IoM vs Chaos game already!

I'm kidding by the way. Hating on IoM is so 2012 isn't it?

If there was to be a new army I would like to see space skaven!

I think it would be cool but GW would have to fix the way it releases. It's not a matter of too many armies to update currently because other miniature companies could handle it, it's that GW just seems like a headless chicken. The new race would need to be xeno that isn't MEQ to add something to the game.

Another race?!?! No. Just no.

Already too much toe-stepping as is, it would be nothing but re-hash with new minis.

Fluff wise I'm all for a new race, if only to get some new aestatics into the model range.

Gameplay-wise I just don't see a real niche for a new army that isn't allready filled by another army (it's bad enough how similiar some of the new codices feel).

A mercenary suplement would be nice, but that seems like a hell to balance.

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 Kain wrote:
But seriously, no more new human factions. We need more Xenos. More xenos view point books. More xenos antagonists. More xenos video game campaigns.

Less Chaos and IoM, more aliens!

How many more unique alien types are there? With good and evil space elves, space orks, giant bugs, utilitarian alien gunners, and undead mechanicals, what else is there that isn't going to seem to be a re-hash or mixture of these types?

Maybe Klingons?

Well there was that Xeno Empire that used sound to fight in combat, not to mention several others mentioned over the Horus Heresy.

..Wouldn't mind a pure Kroot or Vespidwing book though.

it may just be because I play the guardians of the covenant, but I would like to see who the lilith where and how they enslaved a lot of people. could be fun I think.

Maybe they use "civilians" they mind-hacked and use them as meat shields, and imperium armies have to take a "will test" to shoot at them. Also, maybe more mind warping powers like telepathy.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
A supplement that has the rules for all the various minor alien factions would be nice. They could even combine it with Deathwatch.

Thyruss (or however you spell it) would be an interesting army; I don't think we have anything like it currently.

Hrud are not big enough of a threat to be made into a full blown army; from the fluff they appear to be a solidary race that are encountered in small groups. I do not recall reading about them being encountered in full force, except for that one time during the Great Crusade.

Sometimes the Hrud break into huge migrations where their concentrations are so large that they literally break space and time with their entropic fields. An Ork waaagh slammed into an Imperial world just to run away from a Hrud migrant fleet.


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 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 Kain wrote:
But seriously, no more new human factions. We need more Xenos. More xenos view point books. More xenos antagonists. More xenos video game campaigns.

Less Chaos and IoM, more aliens!

How many more unique alien types are there? With good and evil space elves, space orks, giant bugs, utilitarian alien gunners, and undead mechanicals, what else is there that isn't going to seem to be a re-hash or mixture of these types?

Maybe Klingons?

Thyrrus are...different.

As are the Slaugth.

 Kain wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
A supplement that has the rules for all the various minor alien factions would be nice. They could even combine it with Deathwatch.

Thyruss (or however you spell it) would be an interesting army; I don't think we have anything like it currently.

Hrud are not big enough of a threat to be made into a full blown army; from the fluff they appear to be a solidary race that are encountered in small groups. I do not recall reading about them being encountered in full force, except for that one time during the Great Crusade.

Sometimes the Hrud break into huge migrations where their concentrations are so large that they literally break space and time with their entropic fields. An Ork waaagh slammed into an Imperial world just to run away from a Hrud migrant fleet.

Really? Damn, can't believe I missed that part! It sounds metal as hell

Perhaps the Hrud could use a buffed version of Entropic touch as their gimmick then.

And yes, Thryuss and Slaugh are freaky bastards. The Thrryus treats war like a piece of theater, and the Slaugh are just scary.

Too much already going on in the production schedule to add another full army.

Ideally, they could fold one or two of the Space Marine armies, but that will never happen. Especially with a new Dark Angels codex, and the Dark Angels being the least unique of the alternate Space Marine armies.

Eldar and Tau already sat unloved for nearly two full editions. Black Templar and Sisters have been basically ignored for longer than that.

With Space Marines, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Orks, Tyranids, and Imperial Guard assumedly on the horizon, when are they going to finish another codex? By that time it will be time to start the next rotation for the armies that will then be at the end of the age range, lol.

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
it may just be because I play the guardians of the covenant, but I would like to see who the lilith where and how they enslaved a lot of people. could be fun I think.

Maybe they use "civilians" they mind-hacked and use them as meat shields, and imperium armies have to take a "will test" to shoot at them. Also, maybe more mind warping powers like telepathy.

You are a man of spectacular good taste. *brofist* Guardians of the Covenant FO LIFE!

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
A supplement that has the rules for all the various minor alien factions would be nice. They could even combine it with Deathwatch.

Thyruss (or however you spell it) would be an interesting army; I don't think we have anything like it currently.

Hrud are not big enough of a threat to be made into a full blown army; from the fluff they appear to be a solidary race that are encountered in small groups. I do not recall reading about them being encountered in full force, except for that one time during the Great Crusade.

Sometimes the Hrud break into huge migrations where their concentrations are so large that they literally break space and time with their entropic fields. An Ork waaagh slammed into an Imperial world just to run away from a Hrud migrant fleet.

Really? Damn, can't believe I missed that part! It sounds metal as hell

Perhaps the Hrud could use a buffed version of Entropic touch as their gimmick then.

And yes, Thryuss and Slaugh are freaky bastards. The Thrryus treats war like a piece of theater, and the Slaugh are just scary.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hrud#History

Hrud migrations tend to actually be worse than most Ork waaaghs.

Large amounts of Hrud in one place is seriously bad juju.

There should be another non imperium human race that could also be used in the Horus heresy

 Kain wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
A supplement that has the rules for all the various minor alien factions would be nice. They could even combine it with Deathwatch.

Thyruss (or however you spell it) would be an interesting army; I don't think we have anything like it currently.

Hrud are not big enough of a threat to be made into a full blown army; from the fluff they appear to be a solidary race that are encountered in small groups. I do not recall reading about them being encountered in full force, except for that one time during the Great Crusade.

Sometimes the Hrud break into huge migrations where their concentrations are so large that they literally break space and time with their entropic fields. An Ork waaagh slammed into an Imperial world just to run away from a Hrud migrant fleet.

Really? Damn, can't believe I missed that part! It sounds metal as hell

Perhaps the Hrud could use a buffed version of Entropic touch as their gimmick then.

And yes, Thryuss and Slaugh are freaky bastards. The Thrryus treats war like a piece of theater, and the Slaugh are just scary.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hrud#History

Hrud migrations tend to actually be worse than most Ork waaaghs.

Large amounts of Hrud in one place is seriously bad juju.

Wow, looks like they are a greater threat than I though. Not sure how they could be made into an army though. The improved version of entropic touch is a given, but what about vehicles, elites and fast attack?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Kain wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
A supplement that has the rules for all the various minor alien factions would be nice. They could even combine it with Deathwatch.

Thyruss (or however you spell it) would be an interesting army; I don't think we have anything like it currently.

Hrud are not big enough of a threat to be made into a full blown army; from the fluff they appear to be a solidary race that are encountered in small groups. I do not recall reading about them being encountered in full force, except for that one time during the Great Crusade.

Sometimes the Hrud break into huge migrations where their concentrations are so large that they literally break space and time with their entropic fields. An Ork waaagh slammed into an Imperial world just to run away from a Hrud migrant fleet.

Really? Damn, can't believe I missed that part! It sounds metal as hell

Perhaps the Hrud could use a buffed version of Entropic touch as their gimmick then.

And yes, Thryuss and Slaugh are freaky bastards. The Thrryus treats war like a piece of theater, and the Slaugh are just scary.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Hrud#History

Hrud migrations tend to actually be worse than most Ork waaaghs.

Large amounts of Hrud in one place is seriously bad juju.

Wow, looks like they are a greater threat than I though. Not sure how they could be made into an army though. The improved version of entropic touch is a given, but what about vehicles, elites and fast attack?

Well their own technology appears to be safe from their touch, but like the Skaven they are rather loosely based off of, their technology is esoteric and often unreliable, but very effective when it works. Their main gun is best described as warp enhanced plasma, and their technology while somewhat ramshackle like that of orks, tends to be more subtle in it's design as they're usually infiltrators and stealth units and were probably made as such by the old ones, the Orks on the other hand were made by the Old Ones to be shock troops and boy do they reflect that.

So ambush troops then? Heavy reliance on weak soldiers that have potent but close range weapons?

Perhaps universal stealth and infiltrate to represent their sneakiness and entropic fields?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So ambush troops then? Heavy reliance on weak soldiers that have potent but close range weapons?

Perhaps universal stealth and infiltrate to represent their sneakiness and entropic fields?

Yes, and what vehicles and MCs or other big 'uns they do have should have some pretty funky rules. Little reliance on out and out brute force unless it's to throw a curve ball at someone's expectations.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So ambush troops then? Heavy reliance on weak soldiers that have potent but close range weapons?

Perhaps universal stealth and infiltrate to represent their sneakiness and entropic fields?

Sounds a lot like tyranids...

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So ambush troops then? Heavy reliance on weak soldiers that have potent but close range weapons?

Perhaps universal stealth and infiltrate to represent their sneakiness and entropic fields?

Sounds a lot like tyranids...

Tyranids are sneaky?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So ambush troops then? Heavy reliance on weak soldiers that have potent but close range weapons?

Perhaps universal stealth and infiltrate to represent their sneakiness and entropic fields?

Sounds a lot like tyranids...

Tyranids are sneaky?

Just Lictors. And genestealers, when they want to be.

 Troike wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
So ambush troops then? Heavy reliance on weak soldiers that have potent but close range weapons?

Perhaps universal stealth and infiltrate to represent their sneakiness and entropic fields?

Sounds a lot like tyranids...

Tyranids are sneaky?

Just Lictors. And genestealers, when they want to be.

So two specialized units. Just like every other army. I was talking about every single unit in the theoretical hrud army having infiltrate. Even the vehicles

 Tiger9gamer wrote:
it may just be because I play the guardians of the covenant, but I would like to see who the lilith where and how they enslaved a lot of people. could be fun I think.

Maybe they use "civilians" they mind-hacked and use them as meat shields, and imperium armies have to take a "will test" to shoot at them. Also, maybe more mind warping powers like telepathy.

You don't understand the Imperium well if you think the IG would be at all hesitant to shoot other humans. By and large, the armies of the Imperium fight other armies of the Imperium, whether that's cults, heretics, traitors, Wars of Faith, queue wars, trade disputes, tithe disputes, or just because some Rogue Trader sold guns to Planet A and told them Planet B was talking smack about their mothers, while selling Planet B some guns, warning them Planet A was on its way to kick their ass.

I don't agree that a new race would be a good idea, however, when ive been pondering such thoughts as this, ive always loved the idea of the Laer making a return! Just think, they were an non-humanoid alien race that the Adeptus Administratum thought were so formidable that they thought Fulgrims idea of going to war with them would take over a decade before any victory was achieved. Now, if some of them survived or fled, it would be awesome to see them make a return!! some new Tech or some cool new powers added into the mix, aswell as something that looks totally unique and unlike any army we have so far. (in my head, they sorta look like the Naga from WoW). But yeah, that's my take on it, the Laer would be awesome. too bad theyre extinct. Also, this is a quote from the Lexicanum, and tell me this doesn't sound freakin awesome!!

" They wielded gauntlets capable of firing green-hued energy beams, capable of piercing Space Marine battle armour with ease, and also sported energized blades that not even Terminator armour found refuge from."

Dayyyuuuum!!

So they had conversion beamers and power swords? Woo.

That they're already extinct tells you how much of a threat they really weren't.