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 djones520 wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Eight years ago...well....off the top of my head I was in Afghanistan....

Go figure, I was in Kyrgyzstan.

Coronado.

I think I win.

Well, yeah.

What is unreasonable about that?

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
And you'd know that how, given that we were only provided with hearsay from the criminal's father?

Criminal? I wasn't under the impression that he'd been convicted yet. Strange for you to lecture another community member about the legal process, and then disregard it yourself

Relapse wrote:
In the current climate where a kindergardner gets suspended because the way he eats his Pop Tart makes his teacher think it looks like a gun I'm not surprised. Saddened, but not surprised.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/pop-tart-gun-bill_n_2852472.html

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/10/toaster-pastry-gun-freedom-act-proposed-in-maryland/

The fact that something like the pastry act even has a reason for existing makes me want to facepalm so hard I can taste my elbow.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
And you'd know that how, given that we were only provided with hearsay from the criminal's father?

Criminal? I wasn't under the impression that he'd been convicted yet. Strange for you to lecture another community member about the legal process, and then disregard it yourself

Everyone's guilty in my eyes

 Necroshea wrote:

Relapse wrote:
In the current climate where a kindergardner gets suspended because the way he eats his Pop Tart makes his teacher think it looks like a gun I'm not surprised. Saddened, but not surprised.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/pop-tart-gun-bill_n_2852472.html

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/10/toaster-pastry-gun-freedom-act-proposed-in-maryland/

The fact that something like the pastry act even has a reason for existing makes me want to facepalm so hard I can taste my elbow.

I don't even know what it would be like for kids wanting to play army on the play ground. They'd probably be taken from their homes and put into reform school, what with all the pretend shooting, blowing up, and knifing of each other.

Relapse wrote:

 Necroshea wrote:

Relapse wrote:
In the current climate where a kindergardner gets suspended because the way he eats his Pop Tart makes his teacher think it looks like a gun I'm not surprised. Saddened, but not surprised.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/pop-tart-gun-bill_n_2852472.html

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/10/toaster-pastry-gun-freedom-act-proposed-in-maryland/

The fact that something like the pastry act even has a reason for existing makes me want to facepalm so hard I can taste my elbow.

I don't even know what it would be like for kids wanting to play army on the play ground. They'd probably be taken from their homes and put into reform school, what with all the pretend shooting, blowing up, and knifing of each other.

And playing cowboys and indians in this age of PC hell would probably see the kids sentenced to a reeducation/work camp until they're 18.

Defiantly not the worst thing I've seen someone say online.

 agnosto wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Necroshea wrote:

Relapse wrote:
In the current climate where a kindergardner gets suspended because the way he eats his Pop Tart makes his teacher think it looks like a gun I'm not surprised. Saddened, but not surprised.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/pop-tart-gun-bill_n_2852472.html

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/10/toaster-pastry-gun-freedom-act-proposed-in-maryland/

The fact that something like the pastry act even has a reason for existing makes me want to facepalm so hard I can taste my elbow.

I don't even know what it would be like for kids wanting to play army on the play ground. They'd probably be taken from their homes and put into reform school, what with all the pretend shooting, blowing up, and knifing of each other.

And playing cowboys and indians in this age of PC hell would probably see the kids sentenced to a reeducation/work camp until they're 18.

It wouldn't surprise me to see that pop up in the news.

If he's still in jail and not out on bail something else is going on.



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JWhex wrote:
The people that need a damn filter are the ones that cannot tell some kid on the web is being a kid from someone that is a real threat.

Fething morons

How do you know he's not a real threat? next thing you're telling me, people in college and aspiring olympic boxers could make bombs out of pressure cookers. Crazy stuff like that never happens.

 Frazzled wrote:
If he's still in jail and not out on bail something else is going on.



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JWhex wrote:
The people that need a damn filter are the ones that cannot tell some kid on the web is being a kid from someone that is a real threat.

Fething morons

How do you know he's not a real threat? next thing you're telling me, people in college and aspiring olympic boxers could make bombs out of pressure cookers. Crazy stuff like that never happens.

This clearly means we should automatically assume EVERYONE is a terrorist.

Judging by recent actions I think they already do.

Wait... has the Inquisition begun here?

Jesus... the kid said words.... online.

o.O

 whembly wrote:
Wait... has the Inquisition begun here?

Jesus... the kid said words.... online.

o.O

Naw, the Emperor's Holy Inquisition is pretty big on guns for smiting heretics

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Wait... has the Inquisition begun here?

Jesus... the kid said words.... online.

o.O

Naw, the Emperor's Holy Inquisition is pretty big on guns for smiting heretics

Heh... touche...

Seriously, that kid needs to sue the feth out of those who arrested him. This is beyond the pale.

 whembly wrote:
Heh... touche...

Seriously, that kid needs to sue the feth out of those who arrested him. This is beyond the pale.

Thank you

It was a needless situation that should have been handled better by the trained law enforcement officer(s), and the District Attorney. The fact that such a ridiculous case almost made it to trial is a shocking indictment against all those mentioned.




(edited because some idiot thought he was replying to a different thread )

Right now they are stupid because they arrested him.

But if he would have done something then other people would call them stupid for now arresting him.

The kid is the stupid person here, plain and simple, and the Internet has only made people stupider. We continually forget that the Internet is an open forum that reaches the world, and we need to act accordingly. Saying crap like be did would have been fine in a small group of friends, or even between two kids fighting in a playground.

But saying crap like that online, in the open for everyone to see, is no different than dragging that person to the police station and threatening them in front of the cops there. In the end they will see it and will have to do something about it.

If you are not smart enough to realize that open online communication on Facebook is not the same as a private conversation between two people, then you deserve the consequences.

If the cop is standing nex to you and hears you make threats, then they will act. If you leave your stupid comments in an open forum with your identity attached for cops to see, they will act.

Realize that being an idiot on Facebook is the same as being an idiot in real life and that you will face the same consequences. "It's the Internet" is no excuse for being an idiot.

But people have been saying emotionally charged stupid gak online since the days of newsgroups and BBSs. That's not new.

Arresting people for the emotionally charged stupid gak they say online? That is new, and why some of us are surprised/bothered.

Just another example of fear spreading faster than reason.

 d-usa wrote:
Right now they are stupid because they arrested him.

But if he would have done something then other people would call them stupid for now arresting him.

The kid is the stupid person here, plain and simple, and the Internet has only made people stupider. We continually forget that the Internet is an open forum that reaches the world, and we need to act accordingly. Saying crap like be did would have been fine in a small group of friends, or even between two kids fighting in a playground.

But saying crap like that online, in the open for everyone to see, is no different than dragging that person to the police station and threatening them in front of the cops there. In the end they will see it and will have to do something about it.

If you are not smart enough to realize that open online communication on Facebook is not the same as a private conversation between two people, then you deserve the consequences.

If the cop is standing nex to you and hears you make threats, then they will act. If you leave your stupid comments in an open forum with your identity attached for cops to see, they will act.

Realize that being an idiot on Facebook is the same as being an idiot in real life and that you will face the same consequences. "It's the Internet" is no excuse for being an idiot.

Although I think the kid could have used better judgement, there are innumerable cases where threats were made against people under far more dire seeming circumstances and the cops just stood back and said they couldn't legaly do anything until something was physically attempted. The reason for that response is just because of things like this case where they open themselves up for a law suit.
What's interesting is that it is an arrestable offense in all 50 states that I know of.

 daedalus wrote:
But people have been saying emotionally charged stupid gak online since the days of newsgroups and BBSs. That's not new.

Arresting people for the emotionally charged stupid gak they say online? That is new, and why some of us are surprised/bothered.

Same logic with piracy, really. Doesn't mean the complaints are in any form legitimate.

Relapse wrote:
Although I think the kid could have used better judgement, there are innumerable cases where threats were made against people under far more dire seeming circumstances and the cops just stood back and said they couldn't legaly do anything until something was physically attempted.

Then they are terrible cops.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 daedalus wrote:
But people have been saying emotionally charged stupid gak online since the days of newsgroups and BBSs. That's not new.

Arresting people for the emotionally charged stupid gak they say online? That is new, and why some of us are surprised/bothered.

Same logic with piracy, really. Doesn't mean the complaints are in any form legitimate.

Relapse wrote:
Although I think the kid could have used better judgement, there are innumerable cases where threats were made against people under far more dire seeming circumstances and the cops just stood back and said they couldn't legaly do anything until something was physically attempted.

Then they are terrible cops.

I agree after seeing first hand the frustration people have in dealing with the situation of recieving harrasment and death threats that the police don't move on.

Been a few suicides because of online threads and bullying where nothing was done because "it's just words on the Internet".

 Kovnik Obama wrote:

 daedalus wrote:
But people have been saying emotionally charged stupid gak online since the days of newsgroups and BBSs. That's not new.

Arresting people for the emotionally charged stupid gak they say online? That is new, and why some of us are surprised/bothered.

Same logic with piracy, really. Doesn't mean the complaints are in any form legitimate.

Alternatively, we have the thread where the cops have investigated a dakkanaught's complains about his neighbor violation of noise ordinances and drug laws, only to then do nothing.

Enforcement of the law is strange.

 daedalus wrote:
Alternatively, we have the thread where the cops have investigated a dakkanaught's complains about his neighbor violation of noise ordinances and drug laws, only to then do nothing.

Enforcement of the law is strange.

It can be. In regards to the smell, we'd have to check and see if odour is a sufficient element to allow a search of the residence, in that State. I know it's not here. Not even for searching a car.

Anyway, he's even lucky they showed up. In Montreal, calling a cop over a noise complaint will get you laughed at.

 d-usa wrote:
Been a few suicides because of online threads and bullying where nothing was done because "it's just words on the Internet".

Right...

Even w/o the internet... it still happened. I remember in my HS a kid hung himself because he was bullied. No one kid was arrested.

This is still all sorts of wrong D.

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Been a few suicides because of online threads and bullying where nothing was done because "it's just words on the Internet".

Right...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Megan_Meier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Tyler_Clementi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_Prince

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Ryan_Halligan

Even w/o the internet... it still happened. I remember in my HS a kid hung himself because he was bullied. No one kid was arrested.

This is still all sorts of wrong D.

Whenever people rage about "people getting in trouble because they said stuff on the internet" they should simply ask themselves. "Should people be able to yell this in the street next to a cop without getting in trouble?" If the answer is yes, then more power to you. But if you can't say it in real life without getting in trouble, then why should you be able to say it online?

 d-usa wrote:

 whembly wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Been a few suicides because of online threads and bullying where nothing was done because "it's just words on the Internet".

Right...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Megan_Meier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Tyler_Clementi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebe_Prince

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_of_Amanda_Todd

I'm not saying these things don't happened.

I'm saying that there are no concrete laws that is understood by everyone who shouldn't bully.

If you notice in those links you posted, the charges were either reduced to probation, appealed or dropped.

Even w/o the internet... it still happened. I remember in my HS a kid hung himself because he was bullied. No one kid was arrested.

This is still all sorts of wrong D.

Whenever people rage about "people getting in trouble because they said stuff on the internet" they should simply ask themselves. "Should people be able to yell this in the street next to a cop without getting in trouble?" If the answer is yes, then more power to you. But if you can't say it in real life without getting in trouble, then why should you be able to say it online?

If the police can determine imminent danger, they yeah they should be stopped. But, if it was said in jest, sarcasm or whathaveyou... then, no... everyone need to get thicker skin.

What this case here is fething close to "thought policing".

It has really nothing to do with "thought policing".

Don't say stupid gak online and stupid gak won't happen to you.

If the police didn't do anything and the kid would have hurt somebody then the exact same group of people on here would be complaining about how the cops won't do their jobs, won't enforce laws already on the books, etc etc etc...

 d-usa wrote:
It has really nothing to do with "thought policing".

Don't say stupid gak online and stupid gak won't happen to you.

He's a kid... he's a dumb gak kid, who said something stupid.

We were all dumb gak kids...

Does he really need to go to prison for saying a bunch of words?

If the police didn't do anything and the kid would have hurt somebody then the exact same group of people on here would be complaining about how the cops won't do their jobs, won't enforce laws already on the books, etc etc etc...

Erm... no. There's really no way the police can stop something like that from a facebook post.

1) There's not enough man-power to police that

2) At worst, Facebook should've banned the kid from posting on Facebook. THAT'S the appropriate consequence. Not going to fething jail.