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 Da Boss wrote:

When something could happen to either gender, but exclusively happens to one gender, it's worth noting.

Valley State Prison was a women's facility until January of this year.

An added layer, which hasn't been brought up as of yet, is that the doctors may have been attempting to defraud the state.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'm waiting for hotsauceman1 to come in and say how truly disgusting and awful this is: mostly because I want to agree with him! This is truly humanity at its worst.

I agree. This is absolutely disgusting. The idea that some of this women could have been forced to get the operation makes my skin crawl.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
I'm waiting for hotsauceman1 to come in and say how truly disgusting and awful this is: mostly because I want to agree with him! This is truly humanity at its worst.

Where is hotsauceman? He's normally commented in a thread 3 times by now.

This is so wrong it's not funny. Even if people have committed a crime they are humans first , sterilizing people is just fethed up.

Alf why do you not care that this is happening? Criminals are just people , some of whom have done some fethed up things (truly fethed up) but still people just like you or me, they aren't a separate species. Have you never met a criminal and just chatted to them? Some of them have learned from their mistakes and can be very nice people.

Mr Hyena , a truly impressive troll, I'm still annoyed whilst typing this. You need to keep that black and white mentality and go join a truly intelligent political party like the UKIP , seriously do it, you'll find people who believe the same things you do

 Mr Hyena wrote:
The way to stop overpopulation is to sterilize prisoners and asylum inmates...while shutting down orphanages. Allow reproduction by license only...with a huge penalty if broken.

That kind of soft left wing thinking is what got us into this mess in the first place.
The only proper way to stop overpopulation is total perpetual war. Nukes, biowarfare, chemical warfare, absolutely everything.
I recommend we start on a Tuesday.

The best way to start that state of perpetual war is for everyone to become a mobile armed independent strike force. Not only will we kill and maim many as an independent strike force ,we can also shut down the evil of capitalism by freezing the markets and starving those who choose not to participate by liberating society of rules and weak DNA.

Jesus christ I think I must be channelling some anarchist from the 1920s.

 DeathReaper wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
I think its a great idea.

Inmates do not have the same rights as a free person, and this planet is overpopulated...

Really? Why don't we just kill all criminals then? Keeps them from reproducing, ensures that they can't ever repeat the same crime, and it does an even better job of culling the overpopulation?

Because that is exactly the same as what happened in this case.....

No, it's not what happened in this case. At all. However, inmates do not have the same rights as a free person, and this planet is overpopulated.

It's what they're doing already here, but more efficient. Why do you have a problem with it?

Because he hates Freedom.

Bullockist wrote:
Alf why do you not care that this is happening? Criminals are just people , some of whom have done some fethed up things (truly fethed up) but still people just like you or me, they aren't a separate species. Have you never met a criminal and just chatted to them? Some of them have learned from their mistakes and can be very nice people.

I may have hashed out a repeat offender statistic earlier in the thread, but when you ask me, "What is your reaction to people being sterilized." I have no reaction, I'm not happy, I'm not upset, I just can't find a pit in my stomach to give a damn. I have also already said that it's fethed up this happened.

 purplefood wrote:

 Mr Hyena wrote:
The way to stop overpopulation is to sterilize prisoners and asylum inmates...while shutting down orphanages. Allow reproduction by license only...with a huge penalty if broken.

That kind of soft left wing thinking is what got us into this mess in the first place.
The only proper way to stop overpopulation is total perpetual war. Nukes, biowarfare, chemical warfare, absolutely everything.
I recommend we start on a Tuesday.

MESSAGE DECODED.

Mass Effect 4 will have such a bad ending that nobody will want to have children.

Ethically, this is awful.

But is it bad that the pragmatic side has less of a problem with this.

cincydooley wrote:Ethically, this is awful.

But is it bad that the pragmatic side has less of a problem with this.

Oh it does, huh? Please explain.

 azazel the cat wrote:

cincydooley wrote:Ethically, this is awful.

But is it bad that the pragmatic side has less of a problem with this.

Oh it does, huh? Please explain.

Yeah... please do.

O.o me & azael agreeing here... (I'm drinking tonight!)

We've gone on long enough without a Godwin; forcing surgery onto people like this is rather Nazi-like TBH. Racial hygiene, culling the "weak", sterilising undesirables etc. we've been down that way once; let's not do it again. Ever.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:We've gone on long enough without a Godwin; forcing surgery onto people like this is rather Nazi-like TBH. Racial hygiene, culling the "weak", sterilising undesirables etc. we've been down that way once; let's not do it again. Ever.

I totally think we should go down that route again... except this time, rather than controlling breeding patterns, we should just use DNA manipulation on embryos. That way, everyone gets to have kids if they want, and we still get the ubermenschs.

I dream of the day that the process is not unlike choosing the custom options and paint job for a new truck.

 daedalus wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:

 daedalus wrote:

 DeathReaper wrote:
I think its a great idea.

Inmates do not have the same rights as a free person, and this planet is overpopulated...

Really? Why don't we just kill all criminals then? Keeps them from reproducing, ensures that they can't ever repeat the same crime, and it does an even better job of culling the overpopulation?

Because that is exactly the same as what happened in this case.....

No, it's not what happened in this case. At all. However, inmates do not have the same rights as a free person, and this planet is overpopulated.

It's what they're doing already here, but more efficient. Why do you have a problem with it?

I guess you missed the sarcasm in my post.

Of course it is not the same thing.

Some crimes indeed warrant Death. but most do not.

Killing is quite different from sterilization. If you can not understand that then it is a comprehension issue.

In all fairness, DeathReaper, your initial comment was so flying rodent gak crazy that we all had no baseline from which to judge the level of sarcasm in your second post.

Someone needs to reset the "years without a eugenics program" sign to zero again.

Bugger eugenics, we need something well thought out and logical like phrenology.

Bullockist wrote:Bugger eugenics, we need something well thought out and logical like phrenology.

Can't we have both? Breeding permits only given to suitable pairs with compatible head shapes.

If breeding is outlawed, only outlaws will breed!

 DeathReaper wrote:

I guess you missed the sarcasm in my post.

Of course it is not the same thing.

Some crimes indeed warrant Death. but most do not.

Killing is quite different from sterilization. If you can not understand that then it is a comprehension issue.

As has been stated many times, sarcasm is surprisingly difficult to interpret when presented on the internet.

I think part of the problem is that your sarcastic comment was almost believable enough to think you were flying rodent gak crazy, but not so far beyond the realm of believability to think that you might actually be joking.

Given some of the borderline sociopathic or insane things said on Dakka, you never know, man. You never know.

Forced sterilization of non-violent and non-sexual offenders to be... Nazi territory. Strictly speaking, you can tell the quality of life of a nation through the treatment of their prisoners. Forced sterilzation, or misleading someone into sterilzation, fits the bill.

 d-usa wrote:
If breeding is outlawed, only outlaws will breed!

I lol'd

Ninjakinshu wrote:
Forced sterilization of non-violent and non-sexual offenders to be... Nazi territory. Strictly speaking, you can tell the quality of life of a nation through the treatment of their prisoners. Forced sterilzation, or misleading someone into sterilzation, fits the bill.

Dude, Canada had a forced sterilization program for criminals, the feeble-minded and 'degenerate women' from the 1910s and onward.

the Alberta Sexual Sterilization Act passed on March 7, 1928, creating a Eugenics Board with the power to authorize the sexual sterilization of individuals. From 1929 to 1972, the board approved 4725 of 4800 cases brought before it, of whom 2822 were officially sterilized.

The Nazi are their own special snowflake because they euthanized those which, in every other gakky nations, got sterilized. Like the chronically depressed or the suicidal.

Hitler actually cited America's eugenics program as an example when he started his.