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"Misplacing" $13 Billion, Lying about the cost of a $35 Billion fighter jet program that doesn't even work, absolutely killing protection for rivers and lakes, wasting billions on prisons when our crime rate has been consistently dropping (while cutting rehabilitation programs in already existing prisons), muzzling the speech of people and organizations who would speak against him, shutting down government when stuff got too hot for him, one of the largest deficits in Canadian history, and a complete destruction of Canada's reputation on the international front...

Not to mention that whole election fraud thing.

He's done a lot to get worried about. That's just a bit of it.

On a good note, he did manage to decommission the penny. So there's that.

Good ol'Canuckistan. Leading the world in being just north of the United States.

 Fafnir wrote:
"Misplacing" $13 Billion, Lying about the cost of a $35 Billion fighter jet program that doesn't even work, absolutely killing protection for rivers and lakes, wasting billions on prisons when our crime rate has been consistently dropping (while cutting rehabilitation programs in already existing prisons), muzzling the speech of people and organizations who would speak against him, shutting down government when stuff got too hot for him, one of the largest deficits in Canadian history, and a complete destruction of Canada's reputation on the international front...

Not to mention that whole election fraud thing.

He's done a lot to get worried about. That's just a bit of it.

On a good note, he did manage to decommission the penny. So there's that.

The only good thing I can think of with Harper is the government handled the recession fairly well compared to a lot of other countries (I can't say for sure if he was responsible though) other than that I'm not a big fan of him.

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Fafnir wrote:
"Misplacing" $13 Billion, Lying about the cost of a $35 Billion fighter jet program that doesn't even work, absolutely killing protection for rivers and lakes, wasting billions on prisons when our crime rate has been consistently dropping (while cutting rehabilitation programs in already existing prisons), muzzling the speech of people and organizations who would speak against him, shutting down government when stuff got too hot for him, one of the largest deficits in Canadian history, and a complete destruction of Canada's reputation on the international front...

Not to mention that whole election fraud thing.

He's done a lot to get worried about. That's just a bit of it.

On a good note, he did manage to decommission the penny. So there's that.

The only good thing I can think of with Harper is the government handled the recession fairly well compared to a lot of other countries (I can't say for sure if he was responsible though) other than that I'm not a big fan of him.

I think it was mostly we have some regulations that previous governments put in place, and Harper didn't screw up.

Interesting note- The Canada Economic Action Plan was over for most of the time it was advertised.

Most of Canada's economic stability during the recession came from measures put in by the liberals before him. For all his failings, Paul Martin could keep an economy together.

Of course, that hasn't stopped Harper for taking credit for it.

Experiment 626 wrote:Odds of eating tainted meat? Rather miniscule.

The reason the odds of eating tainted meat is mniscule is due to regulations that Harper has now removed. Downer cows are now allowed to be processed. The odds of eating tainted meat just went up by a great deal.

Cheesecat wrote:The only good thing I can think of with Harper is the government handled the recession fairly well compared to a lot of other countries (I can't say for sure if he was responsible though) other than that I'm not a big fan of him.

The previous Liberal administration had a lot to do with it, as did Mark Carney, who really did help prevent Canada from experiencing many of the economic woes that the US and many other countries experienced.

If anything, Canada has done relatively well during the recession despite the I'll-just-do-whatever-the-GOP-tells-me-to-do self-destructive attitude that Harper demonstrates at almost every turn.

We probably won't feel the real fallout from Harper's run for around 5-10 years from now. And by then, it'll be far too late.

 Fafnir wrote:
Lying about the cost of a $35 Billion fighter jet program that doesn't even work,

It works, it's just not any good.

In this specific case, it didn't even work. Although I'm unaware on the status of the jets currently, it used to be that they were unable to properly function in the climates of the areas that they were supposedly bought to protect.

 Fafnir wrote:
In this specific case, it didn't even work. Although I'm unaware on the status of the jets currently, it used to be that they were unable to properly function in the climates of the areas that they were supposedly bought to protect.

Not as off the production line, but an ''upgrade kit'' to make it artic-proof was to come a few years after. Still, a useless and foolish investment.

 Fafnir wrote:
In this specific case, it didn't even work. Although I'm unaware on the status of the jets currently, it used to be that they were unable to properly function in the climates of the areas that they were supposedly bought to protect.

That sounds extraordinarily suspicious to me.

The entire way the Harper government carries out its business is extraordinarily suspicious.

 Fafnir wrote:
The entire way the Harper government carries out its business is extraordinarily suspicious.

I mean the F-35 not functioning in cold climates sounds suspect.

It was something about it's radar or communications gear freezing up, I think. Not sure of the exact details.

I think you're confusing the issue with a debate 2 years ago in Canada. There were concerns at the time about the F35 being a single engine fighter based on past experience with F104 Starfighter (another single engine Lockheed design). Apparently that aircraft had engine trouble in the cold and experienced a lot of failures and some Canadian policy makers were concerned about it happening again (because the F35 is also a single engine aircraft). They had some official come in and asked him about it though and he claimed to them at least that the F35 wouldn't experience the same problem.

The official was probably right on that at least. Isn't one of the airbases used to test the F35 in Alaska?

I've never heard of its cold weather performance being an issue. There's enough to worry about with it.

It can't climb. It can't turn. It can't run. It has pathetic range. It has pathetic payload. You can't see out of it. Single engine configs are a bad idea for carrier ops. Twin engine configs are a good idea even for land-based ops. It loses its "stealth" capabilities the second it needs to actually be used for combat, due to its inability to get anywhere without drop tanks.

Etc. etc. etc. I'm shocked anyone outside the US is buying it, given that we're holding back on some of the low observable tech for exports. I'm shocked we're buying it, given that it's a gakky airplane.

If he's relected. I'm causing the next Feburary Revolution.

As long as Alberta has a chokehold on the political power in Canada, Harper and his conservatives will continue to be reelected. And looking at the tarsands as they are now, that will continue for a long, long time.

 Fafnir wrote:
As long as Alberta has a chokehold on the political power in Canada, Harper and his conservatives will continue to be reelected. And looking at the tarsands as they are now, that will continue for a long, long time.

Yeah, but Alberta is only one province and it only has like 20 something seats that's no where near high enough to win the election.

The thing is that unlike the rest of Canada, Alberta and Saskatchewan, the redneck provinces that Harper's party actually manages to appeal to (mostly through a combination of letting pretty much anything through concerning the oilsands, and the ignorance of the population about any political matter outside of that), have a much more concentrated voter base. Sure, there may be less seats, but every single one of them will vote Conservative.

Despite the high amount of seats available in the shield, with all the parties vying for some small scrap of power there, it's an impotent mess.

Granted, this could easily be fixed by getting rid of the current 'first past the post' system that we use.
As an Albertan, I'd like to have a vote that actually counts.