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I've never had any experience with Wizkids' customer service but I'd imagine that they'd help you out if you gave them a call. Could you not see the defect on the ship before you purchased it?

Gordash wrote:
I've never had any experience with Wizkids' customer service but I'd imagine that they'd help you out if you gave them a call. Could you not see the defect on the ship before you purchased it?

No, I couldn't, I have to ask the guys behind the counter for the ship, and I was distracted by payment at the time, Plus, I couldn't even see the defect through the packaging. (Really, had no reason to inspect it, never heard of this before.)

Also, anyone have a good model to replace the Charm-Bracelet enterprise with? Was looking for a Constitution-Refit model to use. lol

I know a guy at my shop has replaced it with a bigger ship. There's a guy on BGG with a scale thread that has replaced all of his ships with to scale ships- they look great. Try to track that down (I'd link to it, but I can't access BGG at work).

Gordash wrote:
I know a guy at my shop has replaced it with a bigger ship. There's a guy on BGG with a scale thread that has replaced all of his ships with to scale ships- they look great. Try to track that down (I'd link to it, but I can't access BGG at work).

Well, I was looking at the Star Trek: Fleet Captains models, and they look GREAT!

Question is, is there ANYWHERE I can buy single models??? I really don't want to burn 150+$ on a board game and expansion i'm never going to use (I plan on taking the ships off their bases and using them for attack wing. )

EDIT: I went on BGG, it's a confusing website, I can't really navigate that well, if you want to post a link later, I'll follow it.

Really want the Fleet Captains ships though, anyone know of anywhere I can buy Blank Attack Wing bases and the ship profiles (with firing arcs, stats, etc.) ?

I don't think you can buy blank bases- one of the OPs come with Bases though- might be OP3. I don't know how many you get though.

I'll post a link when possible.


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People are starting to post stuff at www.shapeways.com

I'm not sure how it works, but there you go. 1/5000 scale is probably about the size you want for any attack wing ship- anyone else want to chime in on scale? What's the rough scale of the Enterprise D from the base set?


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An example- http://www.shapeways.com/model/1316175/federation-defiant-1-5000.html?li=search-results&materialId=60

I had the little black bits from the dials missing from one of my ships and their replacement service sent me replacements a couple of days after telling them. So yeah, I've had a good experience with their customer service.
Just get in contact with them.

Gordash wrote:I don't think you can buy blank bases- one of the OPs come with Bases though- might be OP3. I don't know how many you get though.

I'll post a link when possible.


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People are starting to post stuff at www.shapeways.com

I'm not sure how it works, but there you go. 1/5000 scale is probably about the size you want for any attack wing ship- anyone else want to chime in on scale? What's the rough scale of the Enterprise D from the base set?


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An example- http://www.shapeways.com/model/1316175/federation-defiant-1-5000.html?li=search-results&materialId=60

Those look even less detailed than the attack wing models themselves though... ???

I'd prefer the Fleet Captains models over those. lol.

whitehorn wrote:I had the little black bits from the dials missing from one of my ships and their replacement service sent me replacements a couple of days after telling them. So yeah, I've had a good experience with their customer service.
Just get in contact with them.

Mind PMing me a way of getting in contact with them?

They're less detailed, but are to scale!

Gordash wrote:
They're less detailed, but are to scale!

Do you have a link to the BGG topic with the painted versions of them? I'd be interested in seeing a non-rendered image. lol

OP3 Event in Mukilteo, WA

November 14th ~6pm @ Phoenix Games and Gifts

http://phoenixgamesandgifts.com/

There will be an entry fee. Last one was around $6-$7

There is also free-play on Thursdays to have friendly games or test things out for the next OP event.

Hope to see you there!

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:

Gordash wrote:
I've never had any experience with Wizkids' customer service but I'd imagine that they'd help you out if you gave them a call. Could you not see the defect on the ship before you purchased it?

No, I couldn't, I have to ask the guys behind the counter for the ship, and I was distracted by payment at the time, Plus, I couldn't even see the defect through the packaging. (Really, had no reason to inspect it, never heard of this before.)

Also, anyone have a good model to replace the Charm-Bracelet enterprise with? Was looking for a Constitution-Refit model to use. lol

So, an update, got in contact with Customer service, they're shipping out a new Apnex model for me. just needed to take a picture of it for them.

Also, I inquired as to whether or not I could purchase empty bases and other game components separately. I'll report back with my findings.

Thanks for the update, PLHS. That's good news.

That is amazing news. Good to see a company with good customer services.

OK GUYS KORANOK PREVIEW IS UP!!

There is nothing to complain about here, the dominion is getting one hell of a ship.
named ship
5 attacks
1 evade
4 hull
3 shields

ship ability spend a scan token to attack 2 ships with -2 attack dice. Not bad for those pesky little science vessels.

Did I mention it has 5 attacks and BATTLE STATIONS on its action bar and a 180 degree arch, monstrous!

Gul Dukot is here with a captain skill of 7. I know we all wanted 8 but he has the ability to give your ship a free evade or battle station action. I will take a skill 7 for thar. Plus he has an elite talent.

The talent that comes in the set is CAPTURED INTELLIGENCE for 3 points discard and if you don't have an evade put one one your ship and roll an extra evade die each time you are attacked this round. Nice for 3 points.

There is also a 3 pt tech upgeade TETRYON EMISSIONS. Action, disable and roll 3 extra defense dice for the round each time you defend. Can we say good bye Sulu clones.


New dominion weapon DORSAL WEAPONS ARRAY. 3 pts action, disable, 3 dice, fire in 360 range 1-3. A good match to the enterprise D.

Gul Evek 2 pts skill 4 and reroll a blank when you defend. A nice 3rd captain I think.

As we all thought there is a dominion Cloaking Device as a tech upgrade, but unlike the federation one, it is 4 pts for ANY keldon class ship. So you could easily see two of these cloaking and a smaller ship in a 100 pt build.

BOHEEKA
a nice 2 pt crew that lets you convert a blank into a hit IF you have a battle station mext to your ship. With Gul Dukot it won't be that hard.


well guys the dominion is going to get a lot meaner next month. I say great, more variety of good ships is a better game and the Koranok fills a lot of holes for the dominion.

discuss!



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Almost forgot it is the first ship that can do a 4 Bank

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
OK GUYS KORANOK PREVIEW IS UP!!

There is nothing to complain about here, the dominion is getting one hell of a ship.
named ship
5 attacks
1 evade
4 hull
3 shields

ship ability spend a scan token to attack 2 ships with -2 attack dice. Not bad for those pesky little science vessels.

Did I mention it has 5 attacks and BATTLE STATIONS on its action bar and a 180 degree arch, monstrous!

Gul Dukot is here with a captain skill of 7. I know we all wanted 8 but he has the ability to give your ship a free evade or battle station action. I will take a skill 7 for thar. Plus he has an elite talent.

The talent that comes in the set is CAPTURED INTELLIGENCE for 3 points discard and if you don't have an evade put one one your ship and roll an extra evade die each time you are attacked this round. Nice for 3 points.

There is also a 3 pt tech upgeade TETRYON EMISSIONS. Action, disable and roll 3 extra defense dice for the round each time you defend. Can we say good bye Sulu clones.


New dominion weapon DORSAL WEAPONS ARRAY. 3 pts action, disable, 3 dice, fire in 360 range 1-3. A good match to the enterprise D.

Gul Evek 2 pts skill 4 and reroll a blank when you defend. A nice 3rd captain I think.

As we all thought there is a dominion Cloaking Device as a tech upgrade, but unlike the federation one, it is 4 pts for ANY keldon class ship. So you could easily see two of these cloaking and a smaller ship in a 100 pt build.

BOHEEKA
a nice 2 pt crew that lets you convert a blank into a hit IF you have a battle station mext to your ship. With Gul Dukot it won't be that hard.


well guys the dominion is going to get a lot meaner next month. I say great, more variety of good ships is a better game and the Koranok fills a lot of holes for the dominion.

discuss!



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Almost forgot it is the first ship that can do a 4 Bank

The only thing i'm disappointed about is that it's a Dominion ship, which it wasn't in DS9, it was actually a ship modified with the help of the Tal'Shiar when they formed an alliance with the Obsidian Order to topple the Dominion. The PWB'Ajrmr is also part of this Coalition fleet.

This ship REALLY should've been the first Cardassian Aligned ship, not Dominion.

Even after the fleet was destroyed in the series, we didn't see Dominion ships cloaking, so why do they get a cloaking device now?

The cloak doesn't bother me it is there for theme, if you want to reenact that story arc and you have to pay for it. The ships mission card is part of that story.

Also Keldon class ships were part of the regular cardassian fleet before and after they joined the dominion. They were building them to replace the galor class ships. Just as the federation was building the sovereign class to replace the galaxy. It was an arms race between the two of them as they expected to be going to war with each other over the demilitarized zone and the maquis. However the war with the klingons caught the cardassians unprepared and production was halted. However it was resumed once they got help from the dominion. They just did not have as many due to the war interuption.

The reason all of the Obsidian Order ships were keldon class is because it was the newest and best desing the cardassians had plus with production going in the regular ship yards extra parts and hulls could easily be moved to the order's facility in the orias system and then covered up.

I get that, but seriously, the Dominion never had cloaks... You could have a named Dominion Keldon class, and a Named Cardassian Ship Koranak, but don't give the dominion a cloaking device, they never had the tech and the card is very out of place on a dominion ship. They could've just had the named Cardassian aligned ship have cloak and not have a cloaking device card period.

Now dominion is going to be extremely OP...

This is very exciting news, thanks Mr Baldrick! My dominion playing friend is going to be pumped


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I should add that this two of these plus one of the previous Cardassian ships will probably make a pretty potent fleet. Gul Dukat seems great, especially with the upgrades that come in the pack.

I've put my thoughts up on my blog. Gul Dukat is fantastic.

 PlaguelordHobbyServices wrote:
I get that, but seriously, the Dominion never had cloaks... You could have a named Dominion Keldon class, and a Named Cardassian Ship Koranak, but don't give the dominion a cloaking device, they never had the tech and the card is very out of place on a dominion ship. They could've just had the named Cardassian aligned ship have cloak and not have a cloaking device card period.

Now dominion is going to be extremely OP...

it would have been nice to have the carsassians be their own faction, but they would only have 3 ships, keldon, galor, & hedeki. So the best place for them isnin the dominion. Now with the keldon expansion there is nothing stopping anyone from playing a cardassian pure list. I don't think the Dominion will be over powered. They if you put the cloak on even the generic that is 28 points and it will take 2 turns in most cases to re cloak after it fires. The defiant has the same type of cloak and I have only ever seen one person play with the federation cloak, and he did terrible. Its an action hemorrhage. The koranok will put the dominion on par with everyone else.


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 spyguyyoda wrote:
This is very exciting news, thanks Mr Baldrick! My dominion playing friend is going to be pumped


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I should add that this two of these plus one of the previous Cardassian ships will probably make a pretty potent fleet. Gul Dukat seems great, especially with the upgrades that come in the pack.

I am thinking 2 keldons and the gor portas with dukot.

Well, (and I could be getting my ships mixed up) I think that Gul Evek on the Kraxon with Tetryon emissions will be a good third ship because it can take the crits the cloaked ships would take on its shields. Since I've been almost exclusively been using ships that cloak, I seem to die to crits much faster than I do to regular hits.

I don't play dominion, though, so take that with a grain of salt.

If that is the rout you want, 2 keldon & kraxon I would say this:

24 keldon
5 dukot
2 boheeka
4 cloak
3 dorsal array

24 keldon
2 evek
4 claok


26 kraxon
3 mirok
3 tetryon emissions

100 total

kraxon can take the damage for the others, mirok can heal it. Both keldons can blast away to the front and Dukot can cover you back while turning around.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I was thinking. I might drop the Dorsal Array for the named ship, but that would take some practical experience, I think.

So, i'm kind of having a bit of trouble transporting everything in the same container...

Anyone have any suggestions?

Mine are all in a small case with foam inserts, but i've seen tool boxes and normal stacking storage boxes used.

Use what ever makes you more comfortable.
Only thing I will say is that I've seen two different people break their enterprise A getting them out of the package they come in when they were using the original package for storage and transport purposes. The two arms are really thin - but do slot back in . . . Worth bearing in mind.

I've used a dollar store container with compartments and inserts for all of the non-ship accessories. I need to get a binder for the cards, and then I'm going to get another container for the ships.

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
OK GUYS KORANOK PREVIEW IS UP!!

There is nothing to complain about here, the dominion is getting one hell of a ship.
named ship
5 attacks
1 evade
4 hull
3 shields

ship ability spend a scan token to attack 2 ships with -2 attack dice. Not bad for those pesky little science vessels.

Did I mention it has 5 attacks and BATTLE STATIONS on its action bar and a 180 degree arch, monstrous!

I'm seeing this and thinking finally a non-Fed ship for Khan.

Ok has it occurred to anyone else to put Khan from the Reliant set on a Keldon class yet. Imagine 5 attacks and 6 at range one with battle stations going to crits. Put Khan and Dukot in the same fleet

Oh my I might have to play dominion next month.

Very true. Khan's been getting very little love, but the Koranak is really great.

yes, yes but I was thinking of Khan and Weyoun, but I just noticed Dukot has an Elite slot; so throwing him on an Attack Ship w/ Suicide and Cheat Death sounds uber fun.