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 chillis wrote:
I completely agree, the more attack's the better. They are the DP's best friend. As for chosen, do PG all the way. If they're your back field objective holders you get so much more range, and if somebody gets close that just means an extra shot

I agree with this statement. PG Chosen are pretty much best used as Chaos Sternguard without the cool ammo rules and drop pod access, but 5 Plasma Guns are 5 Plasma Guns. You may even consider adding one guy and giving him the Champ's PG while the Champ takes a Combi-Plasma to maximize your Dakka should you lose a guy to Gets Hot or some poor unfortunate ends up in Rapid Fire range.

Also, just a note on something I read earlier in the conversation regarding Fabius Bile. He isn't bound to Slaanesh or any other God. He isn't even in the Emperor's Children anymore and he's banned from Black Legion space by Abaddon himself. He HAS worked with Berzerkers in the past(having learned how to perform their signature RAEG lobotomies), and a squad of Bile'd up CSM with the Mark of Khorne, while lacking WS 5, make up for it by always being S5 instead of only being S5 on the charge. This means Power Fists ALWAYS hit at S10. Just food for thought.

Yes i'm aware that it's a daemon weapon, but it can also fail you big time lol i take my daemon weapons with a grain of salt.

I personally wouldn't put it on the prince in favor of getting a rhino for the chosen for drake protection or just to increase the survivability.

I play using 2 DPs often and i find that they rarely need back up in fact most of the time i find myself NOT wanting to kill my target all in 1 turn. I want to kill them during the enemy's turn to protect myself from shooting.

That's just a personal preference though you can keep the shiver blade and not lose too much. But then remember to be weary of riptides, heldrakes and anything that can catch them slipping out in the open. It's an easy first blood in a list with lots of tough units

I do see what you're saying....

....but I personally cannot stand rhinos at all!

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
I do see what you're saying....

....but I personally cannot stand rhinos at all!

They're better as gunboats, tbh. Or as a battering ram when you've got nothing better to do, but they don't work too well with a Khorne force

That list is looking good and no flying chickens.

Usages for a rhino transport:
Turn your Obliterators into a Vindicare Assasins by lining up rhino sights so you can focus fire.
Create a rhino sized 5+ area terrain cover spot anywhere within 18" of your deployment zone
Hiding in the turn before a hell turkey arrives
Hiding behind with important units that want to be out of LOS (best done by lining up a bunch of rhinos sideways)
Additional front armor for a predator/land raider (sellotape that rhino to the front for a free cover save - make sure you put a dozer blade on so you can drive through the crater after it get's blown up)
Road blocks to close off lines of approach (or at least fill it with difficult terrain)
Hiding in if you're about to be charged by a FMC
Tank shocking
Move flat out to hide your troops after they have fired (it's almost as cheesy as Tau JSJ! LOS shenanigans)

I see what your saying, but they're still not great. And not worth dropping 35 points for! Not that I have 35 points to spare, and if I did I definitely wouldn't be buying a rhino with them....