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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 10:36:43
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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Warp-Screaming Noise Marine
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One of my friends always refers to one of the DA special characters as "Trumiel".
Another friend consistently calls the Zoanthropes "Zeanthropes" or something to that effect. It's funny just to listen to him pronouncing that vague "what-am-I?" vowel in the first syllable. He is also very persistent about mistaking Meltaguns for Plasma Guns and the other way around, even though everyone else keeps correcting him each time.
Btw, I also pronounce the name "Tie-ra-nidz". Sue me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 10:47:52
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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Making Stuff
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SRSFACE wrote:While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes."
Except that's not actually true. In English, either is correct. Automatically Appended Next Post:
The 'tie-ra-nid' pronunciation comes from people assuming that the planet they were named after (Tyran) should presumably be pronounced 'tie-ran'. Which seems most likely... but I still prefer the other pronunciation just because it sounds better...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 11:31:04
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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I end up calling my brother's Tau squad leaders Shassy Wassies, because I can never remember which Shas's are which. Automatically Appended Next Post: AlmightyWalrus wrote:I have a hard time taking anyone who uses derogatory terms for Space Marines or Space Marine players ("special snowflakes", "green marines" and so on) seriously. It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too.
So much this. I get flakk for playing a power armoured army, people taking the p* ss that they're different marines and such, and then proceed to have the ever living gak beaten out me by the likes of Tau or Daemons, all the while being called an OP noob for having 3+'s. Sucks man
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 11:37:41
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Death Company constantly referred as Death Guard.
My Razorbacks are always Rhino's to other players.
It's Sanguinary Priest, not Apotechary.
And no. Guardians can't be called Guards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:02:21
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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I don't really have a grief of mispronunciations. I hate it when people call Astartes 'Space Marines' because it makes no damnable sense when they refer to themselves as Astartes. Space Marine is just the informal weird thing Games Workshop calls them for no good reason. Astartes sounds original and intriguing. Space Marine is a trope.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:05:40
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Kovnik
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As far as 40k goes I´m fine but I often play a dude who keeps calling Mohsar Moshar and that´s pretty annoying.
Another dude I play with has terrible problems to pronounce the th sound, his army of Menos is an acoustic pain...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:10:31
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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insaniak wrote: SRSFACE wrote:While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes."
Except that's not actually true. In English, either is correct.
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The 'tie-ra-nid' pronunciation comes from people assuming that the planet they were named after (Tyran) should presumably be pronounced 'tie-ran'. Which seems most likely... but I still prefer the other pronunciation just because it sounds better...
I thought the planet was called Tyranus Prime?
Anyways, I hate when people pronounce Njal as Nigel... They can pronounce Bjorn just fine, or Jarl from Skyrim, but they can't seem to say that one right! The J's make a Y sound!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:18:22
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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A lot of people miss the single "l". I've written rules for the Helbrute and even I missed the single "l" until my editor pointed it out. That's not even the right amount of syllables! That'd be like calling the Ultramarines the Ultrameens.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:22:43
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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A lot of this stuff is subjective as there's no 'official' way of pronouncing it. For example, I pronounce the Necron Gauss so that it rhymes with 'house', my friend pronounces it so that it rhymes with 'horse'. I also say Ti-ra-nids, and not Tie-ra-nids  . Another one that came up last game was 'Coteaz'. I say 'Ko-Tea-Az', he says 'Ko-Tay-Az'. Can't say mispronunciations annoy me though, why would they?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:24:44
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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tyrannosaurus wrote:A lot of this stuff is subjective as there's no 'official' way of pronouncing it. For example, I pronounce the Necron Gauss so that it rhymes with 'house', my friend pronounces it so that it rhymes with 'horse'. I also say Ti-ra-nids, and not Tie-ra-nids  . Another one that came up last game was 'Coteaz'. I say 'Ko-Tea-Az', he says 'Ko-Tay-Az'. Can't say mispronunciations annoy me though, why would they?
Hey, I pronounce those three exactly the same way
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:26:00
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Wyzilla wrote:I don't really have a grief of mispronunciations. I hate it when people call Astartes 'Space Marines' because it makes no damnable sense when they refer to themselves as Astartes. Space Marine is just the informal weird thing Games Workshop calls them for no good reason. Astartes sounds original and intriguing. Space Marine is a trope.
Sorry bro, they were called Space Marines first, and it's still called "Codex: Space Marines". It's not some "informal weird thing"
Have a look at the name of pretty much every model in this army's category (and the name of the category, itself):
They're all called "Space Marines"
Feel free to also call them Astartes if you like, but no one is wrong to say "Space Marine"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:28:12
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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karlosovic wrote: Wyzilla wrote:I don't really have a grief of mispronunciations. I hate it when people call Astartes 'Space Marines' because it makes no damnable sense when they refer to themselves as Astartes. Space Marine is just the informal weird thing Games Workshop calls them for no good reason. Astartes sounds original and intriguing. Space Marine is a trope.
Sorry bro, they were called Space Marines first, and it's still called "Codex: Space Marines". It's not some "informal weird thing"
Have a look at the name of pretty much every model in this army's category (and the name of the category, itself):
They're all called "Space Marines"
Feel free to also call them Astartes if you like, but no one is wrong to say "Space Marine"
Astartes sounds SO much cooler though, and less 80's...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 12:49:05
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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karlosovic wrote: Wyzilla wrote:I don't really have a grief of mispronunciations. I hate it when people call Astartes 'Space Marines' because it makes no damnable sense when they refer to themselves as Astartes. Space Marine is just the informal weird thing Games Workshop calls them for no good reason. Astartes sounds original and intriguing. Space Marine is a trope.
Sorry bro, they were called Space Marines first, and it's still called "Codex: Space Marines". It's not some "informal weird thing"
Have a look at the name of pretty much every model in this army's category (and the name of the category, itself):
They're all called "Space Marines"
Feel free to also call them Astartes if you like, but no one is wrong to say "Space Marine"
It doesn't matter what they were called originally (especially the old fluff, it's from a worse day that is best buried and forgotten), it's a matter of originality and what they refer to themselves in-universe. Plus GW is fine and proper to copyright the words Adeptus Astartes, they however have tried and failed to lay claim (and rightfully so) to the trope 'Space Marine'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 13:03:29
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Wyzilla wrote:...Games Workshop calls them [Space Marines] for no good reason....
....It doesn't matter what they were called originally
Hard to argue with that logic Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm not arguing there's no case to call them "Astartes", though.
It might be a cooler word, might be more original, might be less 80's - and those are all good reasons.
But when the company that invented, makes, and sells them, continually refers to them as "Space Marines", you can't really nerd rage all over the people who follow GW's lead
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 13:07:52
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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karlosovic wrote:Wyzilla wrote:...Games Workshop calls them [Space Marines] for no good reason....
....It doesn't matter what they were called originally
Hard to argue with that logic
Except it is true. Space Marine simply is a trope, calling them space marines is simply bad management and prevents you from being able to copyright the term. Plus having a literal Codex: Adeptus Astartes would make most sense fluffwise as well than Codex: Space Marine. Astartes is more original and unique than the blanket term of Space Marine, which invokes no sense of respect for me but rather something of a bland, generic nature such as the Smurfs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 13:12:34
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Well I think "Smurfs" probably *is* a copyrighted word, and Smurfs are anything but generic You know what, don't worry, I don't want to argue about it. You're right that "Astartes" would be a better word.... it's just I've always called them "Space Marines" because that's what it says on the box Automatically Appended Next Post: Just lay off the old fluff, it was fine. It's the new fluff that is crap.... what, with it's "the way Russ intended" bull$#!+ that means Wolf Guard can't lead Blood Claws if they have jump packs, even though the Wolf Guard can still all have jump packs themselves. Talk about logic fail
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 13:26:30
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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SRSFACE wrote: karlosovic wrote:I have a general annoyance of all "Kool to say it rong" mentality and stupid nicknames.
Like Smurfs, Space Puppies and the abbreviation " 'dex "... and especially " 'dexes ". Seriously - try putting it in a sentence and see how awkward it sounds to deliberately shorten that word for "coolness". It actually takes just as long to say because of the awkward syncopation, and sounds like you had a conniption half way through
While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes." Yay American education system!
I've also personally witnessed several discussions about the proper way to say "Tzeentch." Clearly, phoenetically, it's pronounced, "oh-BAH-ma."
LOL, You do know that the americas are 2 continents Many people, even U.S.A. citizens make the mistake of calling the U.S.A "America". The Americas also contain other countries such as Canada, Mexico and so forth and dont have a unifying education system.
Ultra marines are ultramarines, they are also smurfs. Tyranids are also zerg and bugs and so on and so forth. They are not intended to devalue the fluff. They are simple names to help people keep the armies and what they do and how they play in their mind. I've been playing since the very beginning and few have more respect forthe fluff than i do. As a matter of fact, I'm the guy you see railing against GW when they change or alter the fluff. Removeal of the Space Slann?, Killing off of the squats? Removal of the Illuminati and the LITERAL Emperors biological children he fathered and so on and so forth. These things disrespected the fluff far more than a few harmless nicknames. These nicknames are nothing against the game or the fluff and are not intended to be disrespectful to the players either. If someone complains, I stop and mke a point to not say it. If it is a freind, I wil use them just to rib at them in good fun as they do the same to me. If it is some jerk who is TFG, I might just to get their goat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 13:26:52
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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The Codex Astartes is different from Codex: Space Marines. And naming the book after if wouldn't really be fluffy given that it's, technically, totally different.
But I agree with others. The developers call them Space Marines. Your logic isn't bad, just unreasonable. Now if GW called them Astartes and people used the name Space Marines for them, then your argument would be reasonable.
But they don't really need to copyright the name of the faction anyway. They have the copyright to the whole IP. So if anyone wanted to make a force of bulky metal soldiers and explicitly call them Space Marines, GW would have a case against them. Then those ones can be called Terran Marines and all is right in the world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 13:35:22
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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Civil War Re-enactor
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insaniak wrote: SRSFACE wrote:While we're on that, I am totally that guy who makes sure people knows the proper plural of "codex" is "codices" and not "codexes."
Except that's not actually true. In English, either is correct.
Yes, it's been settled several times that both are correct. But some people won't have it.
Not 40K, but in Warmahordes a whole lot of models have been given nicknames by the Internet, and those are getting a little bit old in my opinion. Harby, Denny, Brisby, Gunny, Judy
Edit: Oh, and by the way. Tyranid. Pyramid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 13:44:53
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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EVIL INC wrote:LOL, You do know that the americas are 2 continents
I've given up trying to point that out, no one listens
EVIL INC wrote:Ultra marines are ultramarines, they are also smurfs. Tyranids are also zerg and bugs and so on and so forth.
Uh...

Smurfs live in mushrooms and like to spend all day singing and frolicking, whereas Ultramarines have guns and armour, and like to spend all day killing their enemies.
So there's a few differences. (but their leaders both wear red hats, so I guess there's something in common)
On the other hand....

Yeh those are pretty similar
Automatically Appended Next Post: Edit:
I also used to say [ty-ran- id]... but someone pointed out that tyranny is pronounced [ti-ran-i]
Then again tyrant is pronounced [ty-rant].... so now I'm confused
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 13:55:08
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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The guys at the shop get a laugh at me because of what I call what I'f shooting at (this get worse as i get more tired). At 6'11", getting old, bad back, bad knees and so forth, the longer the day gets, the more i hurt and the harder it is to think. I'll shoot at those 'critters". Doesnt matter if its bugs or smurfs or eldar whojamawhatsits, they are ALL critters to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 14:25:03
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Lemon Russ...nope...nope....naaaaarhg!
One my friend used to call Cadia "sey-dee-ah"...another hulk rage...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 14:47:20
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Abel
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I like to call all of 40K "that game of little toy solders" just to get a rise out of the players that take it so seriously. It's pretty funny to watch the reactions.
It's usually the old Neckbeards that get the most upset.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 14:52:07
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 14:53:33
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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fishy bob wrote:
Not 40K, but in Warmahordes a whole lot of models have been given nicknames by the Internet, and those are getting a little bit old in my opinion. Harby, Denny, Brisby, Gunny, Judy
I kind of agree with that one. "Lord Tarter Sauce" gets a pass from me though. "Hey, what's in your list" "well, I brought the sauce"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 14:59:58
Subject: Re:That's not what it's called!
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space puppies come to mind [even though I don't play SW]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 15:20:07
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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One that gets me is "Flying Circus" for any army that includes lots of Flyers or FMCs. The original army named that was Harlequins (Clowns) in Falcons (Flying things). That's where it comes from. Tons of FMCs doesn't equal "Flying Circus" at all.
Yes, I am petty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 15:23:52
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SlaveToDorkness wrote:One that gets me is "Flying Circus" for any army that includes lots of Flyers or FMCs. The original army named that was Harlequins (Clowns) in Falcons (Flying things). That's where it comes from. Tons of FMCs doesn't equal "Flying Circus" at all.
Yes, I am petty.
I thought it was because people who use this lists are a JOKE!
get it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 15:24:50
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I have a friend who pronounces paladins pal-ah-dins rather than pal-ad-ins. That gets to me.
Uh, a lot of the ""gothic"" (and I use quadruple quotes for emphasis) words, sororitas, ecclesiarchy, astartes, etc. are pronounced incorrectly, that gets to me.
Oh, my pet peeve is when people call my Gun Drones Shield Drones. They are not Shield Drones. And you can not blame me because you're making that mistake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/18 15:44:48
Subject: That's not what it's called!
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Banzaimash wrote:I end up calling my brother's Tau squad leaders Shassy Wassies, because I can never remember which Shas's are which. Automatically Appended Next Post: AlmightyWalrus wrote:I have a hard time taking anyone who uses derogatory terms for Space Marines or Space Marine players ("special snowflakes", "green marines" and so on) seriously. It's not as though people are constantly attacking their choice of armies (or, well, it usually isn't at least), so why do they have to be such dicks about it? Yes, I like Space Marines. If you don't, more power to you, but get off that high horse, you're playing 40k too. So much this. I get flakk for playing a power armoured army, people taking the p* ss that they're different marines and such, and then proceed to have the ever living gak beaten out me by the likes of Tau or Daemons, all the while being called an OP noob for having 3+'s. Sucks man 
My friend used to call his squad of Crisis suits the "w--boo fightin' magics." (Interesting, I was unaware Dakka censored the weabs). I'm also not a fan of the alternate names of the various Space Marines. I've heard them so many times already it's simply gotten annoying. On topic, there was a guy at a store I used to go to that spent an entire day saying "Rendering" instead of "rending."
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