Get to know your battle brothers! Just how different are the vampires and the wolves?

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**niv-mizzet**

Vaktathi wrote:
Personally, with the SW codex, not counting Characters, the units I'd say are "truly unique" are

Fenrisian Wolves
Thunderwolf Cavalry

these don't have direct equivalents or even anything close in C:SM.

Then we have "implementation unique" units. Stuff that is similar to other stuff or identical to older units, but don't have a truly parallel unit. I'd consider the following to fall under that

Wolf Guard Battle Leader
Lone Wolf

They're basically mini-HQ's, the stat's of old 4E HQ's and -1 wound for the most part, but they're not something other books have anymore (i.e. chaos used to have 2 wound Combat HQ's too, Chaos Lieutenants, until 2007).

So that's 4.

Everything else, barring Characters, in the SW codex, really is just stat, wargear, or special rule swaps. You could write a codex, and have an addendum of a couple pages with a note like the following

"If using Space Wolves Chapter Tactics, all units exchange USR X for Y, and the following units are changed as described

Wolf Scouts, as Scouts except +1WS, +1 BS, gain Super Outflank, are Elites, cost +Xpts for the squad.
[STATLINE entry]

Swiftclaws - as Space Marine Bike Squad, -1WS, -1BS, gains Berzerk Charges rule, no Sergeant.
[STATLINE entry]

Skyclaws, as Space Marine Assault Squad, -1WS, -1BS, gains Berzerk Charges rule, no Sergeant.
[STATLINE entry]"

Fair enough. I personally believe that the many rules swaps will be too much either "back and forth" or notations in the book, but I like the detail you've put in here.

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Anpu42 wrote:
REALLY BIG LIST OF RULES

Hmm...organized like that. I could see that being possible. It does seem like it's still a good deal of page flipping for the player, but not as much of a confusing mess as I envisioned. As long as GW could hold up to that standard (IT COULD HAPPEN,) I may not be totally against codex merging.

**Anpu42**

Just think of the insanity of the Army Listing, but brain not ready for that yet.

**soomemafia**

Waaaghpower wrote:
No reason to be different, totally.
Except, you know, fluff, style, gameplay, and the fact that they are different units.
But besides that, totally no reason to be different.

Here, have an exalt!

kronk wrote:
I am not just a true genius, but I'm also incredible handsome and humble!

Haha! Well nothing wrong with little self-appreciation