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Yeah, What is he doing exactly?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah, What is he doing exactly?

Spending a gakload of money trying to abolish guns.

 Seaward wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah, What is he doing exactly?

Spending a gakload of money trying to abolish guns.

and while enjoying armed protection 24/7.

Abolishing guns is about as functional as trying to abolish teenage sex. It isn't going to happen and spending money trying to do so is wasteful and ignorant.

Sure, it's his money. But if he really gave a gak about people and not power and control, he'd spend that money on gun safety programs for young people and at schools.

Leave the old man his dreams.

Now if he is truly spending money to promote "gun safety", then more power to him.

 d-usa wrote:
Now if he is truly spending money to promote "gun safety", then more power to him.

Agreed... can you image what 50 million jacks can do with that?

 whembly wrote:

 Seaward wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah, What is he doing exactly?

Spending a gakload of money trying to abolish guns.

and while enjoying armed protection 24/7.

this, QFT times a billion.

without exception, the most vocal proponents of anti gun legislation will always retain their right to have the protection via firarms.

OFC its only the unwashed masses that cannot be trusted.

For some reason, this simple double standard, as well as the simple, verifiable fact that more people are saved by guns then killed by then, just passes right over Anti-gun nuts heads.

 d-usa wrote:
Now if he is truly spending money to promote "gun safety", then more power to him.

"The Bloomberg Grant, issued to Firearm Instructors to help train those citizens exercising their Second Amendment right"




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 kronk wrote:
And this is how friends of vice presidents get shot...

Biden has friends?

Wait..Cheney did that Did not pass his weapon off to a friend while climbing over a fence.

 Seaward wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Yeah, What is he doing exactly?

Spending a gakload of money trying to abolish guns.

More specifically it is seed money for what is either Nega-NRA (like Negaduck in Darkwing Duck) or an anti-NRA group called Everytown. You can visit the website and learn more.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
Now if he is truly spending money to promote "gun safety", then more power to him.

"The Bloomberg Grant, issued to Firearm Instructors to help train those citizens exercising their Second Amendment right"




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 kronk wrote:
And this is how friends of vice presidents get shot...

Biden has friends?

Cheney, silly goose! Maybe I should have said ex-VP.

Can take the 50 million to help enforce the laws already in the books

 Jihadin wrote:
Can take the 50 million to help enforce the laws already in the books

Don't be silly, those laws aren't disarming lawful gun owners

Bah your right. that's to much common sense

 Jihadin wrote:
Bah your right. that's to much common sense

As we've learned from politicians common sense is double speak for 'signing your rights away'

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Oh, and that spending $50 million to pressure people one by one to accept gun control is a "grassroots" campaign

Women, and more particularly moms, will be the key demographic in the outreach to curb gun violence

Are there are significant demographics aside from middle class women that are anti-gun? Don't they have anyone else to pander to? How embarrassing...

Is he involving Mayors against Guns in this?

 Jihadin wrote:
Is he involving Mayors against Illegal Guns in this?

I don't usually do this, but fixed that for you. It's an important distinction.

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Is he involving Mayors against Guns in this?

I don't usually do this, but fixed that for you. It's an important distinction.

Re-corrected your error. Thats their intent. Let them own it.

 Jihadin wrote:
Is he involving Mayors against Guns in this?

MAGs? Silly mayors! Viscounts Against Guns is where I'll be found.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Is he involving Mayors against Guns in this?

I don't usually do this, but fixed that for you. It's an important distinction.

Re-corrected your error. Thats their intent. Let them own it.

I don't think it is their intent to ban all firearms, but we tend to be very binary on this subject where either only see people as standing up for all guns are wanting to ban them all with no in between. To be fair I don't like either the NRA or Everytown.

 Frazzled wrote:
Re-corrected your error. Thats their intent. Let them own it.

Please don't rephrase reformat my quote for the sole purpose of making it look like I said something I did not, it's incredibly rude and a Rule 1 violation to any reasonable person.

The name of the group is properly, "Mayors Against Illegal Guns". If you want to argue with what they do, then that's a good argument to have, and salient to the thread even, but lets not build on a foundation of BS.

Judging by the mayors who make up the list, yea, I think it really is, including our mayor here.

Only in America!

 cincydooley wrote:
Abolishing guns is about as functional as trying to abolish teenage sex. It isn't going to happen and spending money trying to do so is wasteful and ignorant.

Sure, it's his money. But if he really gave a gak about people and not power and control, he'd spend that money on gun safety programs for young people and at schools.

The Netherlands has done pretty well in abolishing guns and teenage sex.

Gun related deaths per 100,000 population (2011)
USA, 10.3 (2011)
The Netherlands, 0.46 (2010)

Teenage pregnancies, including births and abortions, per 1000 women (2006)
USA, 61.2
The Netherlands, 14.1

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Abolishing guns is about as functional as trying to abolish teenage sex. It isn't going to happen and spending money trying to do so is wasteful and ignorant.

Sure, it's his money. But if he really gave a gak about people and not power and control, he'd spend that money on gun safety programs for young people and at schools.

The Netherlands has done pretty well in abolishing guns and teenage sex.

Gun related deaths per 100,000 population (2011)
USA, 10.3 (2011)
The Netherlands, 0.46 (2010)

Teenage pregnancies, including births and abortions, per 1000 women (2006)
USA, 61.2
The Netherlands, 14.1

I just gotta ask... what's the source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/419-adolescent-sexual-health-in-europe-and-the-us

 Ahtman wrote:
I don't think it is their intent to ban all firearms, but we tend to be very binary on this subject where either only see people as standing up for all guns are wanting to ban them all with no in between. To be fair I don't like either the NRA or Everytown.

They've lost about fifty mayors in the past couple years, some of whom (like Tzakiki or whatever his name is) have outright said that Bloomberg's focus is against all guns, not just illegal ones.

 Seaward wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
I don't think it is their intent to ban all firearms, but we tend to be very binary on this subject where either only see people as standing up for all guns are wanting to ban them all with no in between. To be fair I don't like either the NRA or Everytown.

They've lost about fifty mayors in the past couple years, some of whom (like Tzakiki or whatever his name is) have outright said that Bloomberg's focus is against all guns, not just illegal ones.

Well that isn't a very tenable position.

Edit: Referring to banning all firearms, not yours.