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Melevolence wrote: I'm still a little sad we haven't had a decent 3D Motaro introduced yet. The whole 'Sheeva and Goro's people cursed him to be a minotaur instead' was annoying in Armageddon :(
That was silly, but it was a limitation of the engine that they didn't have time to rectify. He didn't show up in MK9 either (well he did, but was taken out off screen), probably for similar reasons (too big, didn't fit with tag combat style).
Melevolence wrote: I will be pretty ticked if they cut out people's fighting styles for DLC purposes though. I'd be mad too if they had extras for download, because it will be just as bad as cutting out styles. Creating imbalance on purpose is terrible.
It's WBi. I would not put it past them.
Yeah...I just hope they somehow bring him back. Out of all the boss characters/big cheap characters, he was always my favorite XD HOnestly, I'll even accept another cameo...but Hell, what I'd give to have him fully playable in all his four legged glory...
I know the article says "probably", but consider the following:
1. It has a character locked behind a pay wall (Goro).
2. It has DLC (some of which will likely be day 1).
3. It has pre-order bonus stuff.
4. Warner Brothers is the biggest "me too!" publisher around, with an unyielding desire to copy every anti-consumer bit of bs Ubisoft and EA pull.
Do not pre-order this guy.
Do not buy this game at release.
Do the smart thing: Wait for the "Komplete Edition", which will include all the DLC.
I buy all of two games a year at release. If even that many. This is the first (and possibly only) of 2015. Regardless of DLC and micro transactions, I'm still getting this Day 1. Already preordered.
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1. It has a character locked behind a pay wall (Goro).
2. It has DLC (some of which will likely be day 1).
3. It has pre-order bonus stuff.
4. Warner Brothers is the biggest "me too!" publisher around, with an unyielding desire to copy every anti-consumer bit of bs Ubisoft and EA pull.
You do know that 1 and 3 are the same? Goro is the pre-order character but he isn't tied to any store afaik, and pre-ordering anywhere will get you Goro.
It is almost like the publisher wanted to incentive pre-ordering the game.
I also worry about the level of micro-transactions/DLC that are going to be in the game, but that one instance isn't a worry to me.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Ahtman wrote: It is almost like the publisher wanted to incentive pre-ordering the game.
We shouldn't be pre-ordering games. Period.
Yet it still happens and I'm just happy they aren't doing different characters for different vendors. As long as they are also in competition with the people that sell their games I imagine that the publisher/developers are going to continue to incentive buying it new.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Ahtman wrote: Yet it still happens and I'm just happy they aren't doing different characters for different vendors. As long as they are also in competition with the people that sell their games I imagine that the publisher/developers are going to continue to incentive buying it new.
Pre-order incentives exist to keep brick-and-mortar stores happy. Without them there'd be no reason to have physical copies as everything would be digital, and all the Best Buys and Gamestops in the world wouldn't be too happy with that outcome.
The gaming industry as a whole needs to do what television is doing right now (and what the movie industry still fails at doing) and wake up to the digital nature of today's consumers. All this pre-order incentives and store-specific DLC crap is a symptom of a dying method of commerce trying desperately to remain relevant.
Store specific DLC is absolute crap. I agree. But "thank you for guaranteeing you will buy a copy, have this free add-on that we will make available to anyone later who didn't guarantee a copy being sold at release", well, that's a smart incentive to preorder. What they were doing before with store specific was crap. This current method is fine.
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The last time a system tried to go more digital, or all digital, people threw fits and it ended up costing market share and made the competition also scratch their plans for a more digital platform. I have no issues with digital but pretending the problem is only on the company and brick-and-mortar side is a bit disingenuous.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Ahtman wrote: The last time a system tried to go more digital, or all digital, people threw fits and it ended up costing market share and made the competition also scratch their plans for a more digital platform.
What "system"? What "last time"? Do you have specifics?
Ahtman wrote: I have no issues with digital but pretending the problem is only on the company and brick-and-mortar side is a bit disingenuous.
No it's not. It's the reason why digital prices match that of physical copies. If they charged less for digital copies (which they can do), the physical stores would pitch a fit (and often do) because they were being undercut. It's an old method of commerce getting angry that the times are passing them by. The sooner its gone, the better (and I say this as a citizen of a country with fething useless broadband speeds).
Ahtman wrote: The last time a system tried to go more digital, or all digital, people threw fits and it ended up costing market share and made the competition also scratch their plans for a more digital platform.
What "system"? What "last time"? Do you have specifics?
The X Box One was originally going to be mostly digital but fits were thrown. Sony saw the backlash and decided not to go that way, though I recall they wanted to, or had planned on, being more digital as well.
I agree with you in general, I just don't have your hatred of pre-order.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
I do hate pre-order incentives, however. The point of pre-ordering is/was to basically call "dibs" on a copy of the game so that if a store sells out the game you won't get screwed into waiting however many days/weeks is needed for a new shipment of copies to arrive. That should be the beginning and the end of the "incentive" for pre-ordering a game. I have a problem with locking content out of a game that you paid 60-70 dollars for just so that they can punk people into buying it new and/or before the reviews come out and say it's gak.
Ahtman wrote: The X Box One was originally going to be mostly digital but fits were thrown. Sony saw the backlash and decided not to go that way, though I recall they wanted to, or had planned on, being more digital as well.
I agree with you in general, I just don't have your hatred of pre-order.
Not disagreeing with you, just clarifying:
People threw fits because they saw it for what it was- basically just an attempt to murder the used-game market. Game publishers have been masturbating to the idea of everyone being forced to buy a game at full price or whatever price they set for years, and it's little secret that if you buy a game used or lend a copy to your friend after you've played it, the video game industry basically hates you.
If it was just a matter of having every game being downloadable, thus giving you the choice between owning a physical copy or downloading a digital edition, then its likely no would give a gak. But what they basically wanted to do was implement DRM to prevent you from handing the copy off to a bro and denying them that sweet, sweet moolah.
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Ahtman wrote: The X Box One was originally going to be mostly digital but fits were thrown.
Now who's being disingenuous?
Fits were thrown over the XBone because of the draconian way it was implementing its digital service. Always online. 24-hour check-ins. No used games. No borrowing games. Their proposals were rejected because of a laundry list of anti-consumer practices not because they were going digital. Brick and mortar chains pitched a fit over that because it would kill their used-game market, the "almost pure profit" aspect of their business model that big publishers hate.
Sony saw that and went "Nope. We don't want to be dicks to our customer base", so they didn't, so they aren't. Meanwhile Microsoft went and reversed every single bad decision made with the XBone up to and including the previously mandatory Kinect.
Ahtman wrote: I agree with you in general, I just don't have your hatred of pre-order.
I'm a PC gamer. Pre-ordering makes no sense. I want to know if the game works before I get it, and frankly, with the way things have gone this and last year (READ: Anything released by Ubisoft) is it any wonder that I'm not willing to place my faith in the big publishers?
Pre-ordering serves no purpose, pre-order trinkets and shineys aside. You are buying something sight unseen without any indication that A). it'll be any good and B). that it'll actually work. And that's before we even get into the ludicrous notion of pre-ordering digital products or... the worst of all... Season Passes. That's money down for the vague promise of content. You'd have to be a real rube to do that...
To put another way: Waiting never hurt anyone.
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Does anyone want to talk about characters they hope to see return? Characters they don't want to see return? Or about some of the recent teases Netherrealm have given? Ermac was my most hoped for, followed by Skarlet, Jade, and Smoke. With Ermac confirmed and Jade's fighting style confirmed (sadness), and Smoke has been hinted at once or twice, I'm really hoping to see Skarlet return as a full fledged character.
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Holy gak that is an awesome username. Please tell me your army is called Kabal of the Fragile Breath. Morathi's Darkest Sin has some competition here for best handle, I think.
The Fragile Breath wrote: Does anyone want to talk about characters they hope to see return? Characters they don't want to see return? Or about some of the recent teases Netherrealm have given? Ermac was my most hoped for, followed by Skarlet, Jade, and Smoke. With Ermac confirmed and Jade's fighting style confirmed (sadness), and Smoke has been hinted at once or twice, I'm really hoping to see Skarlet return as a full fledged character.
I'm more interested in what's going on with the plot. Are they just skipping Shinnok after teasing him in the last game? Quan-Chi's there, which is good, but what about the fallen Elder God?
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Yes, I play MK9. I only really play the male characters (especially Sub-Zero) because they do not fight in gear more revealing than my underwear and high heels.
Still, I mean, Cassie Cage looks perfectly decent, so there may be hope?
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Pre-order incentives exist to keep brick-and-mortar stores happy. Without them there'd be no reason to have physical copies as everything would be digital, and all the Best Buys and Gamestops in the world wouldn't be too happy with that outcome.
How does that work when you can pre-order digital copies of games? I pre-order stuff on Steam all the time.
Mind you, I agree that store specific DLC and crap is an insanely bad idea.
