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 coblen wrote:
I always assumed it was because they are impossible to buy. They come in packs of 4 with calgar. Because you know I really needed multiple calgars

Toss some power weapons onto the new sternguard kit and you are good to go. Grab a standard bearer from the command squad if you want one. Frankly there is enough bling on the new veterans, they are just a paint job away from being HG/Captains/CMs.

 schadenfreude wrote:
HG can fit in a pod with tiggy. If they land into cover shrouding + cover is a hard nut to crack.

There is a lot of ap2 in the meta.

There is a lot of ignore cover in the meta.

There is not a lot of ap2 ignore cover in the meta.

They are a better target for invisibility than th/ss termies. 8 honor guard with s5 power axes put out 32 attacks on the charge compared to 15 s8 hammer attacks from 5 termies. The termies have them beat on durability, but that doesn't matter if the units are invisible.

HG can work in a pod with tiggy or loth because shrouding and invisibility can make them pretty nuts

I can't get twiggy to get invisibility, even with his reroll I can't get this stupid power!

 coblen wrote:
I always assumed it was because they are impossible to buy. They come in packs of 4 with calgar. Because you know I really needed multiple calgars

With the new Vanguard and Sternguard plastic kits, making lots of Space Marines in overly ornate armor with fancy power weapons is about as easy as can be imagined.

I was play testing Kantor and his honor guard for a bit and will still probably do it in big games. The biggest problem I had was they were too effective with a large squad. Everyone attacks 5 times on a charge and I needed half their number to wipe a target.

I agree that they are unfortunately not effective against things Marines have trouble with anyway, namely monstrous creatures. Also, the chapter master requirement is limiting, if you aren't doing Kantor or Calgar, they aren't really worth it. You end up being forced to commit other units to really make then effective and that is not good unless you are built that way to begin with.