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The problem here is GW likes to bring up the word "quality" a lot especially in marketing and then proceed to make mistakes of a somewhat preventable nature.

It is worrisome when they point to an area of weakness as an area of strength.

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GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.


I put it on my front door.

BOOM! Limited Edition Home! Sold it for $10,000,000. ZOMG!

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 TheCustomLime wrote:
I have a genuine question: Why are the numbers so important? Does it increase the value if the number is lower or does it prove that the book is legit?


Wouldn't you like to have #1, the first book? Or maybe 2000 since it's the last one. Or maybe have the CSM 666. Now that would be a very special one.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Somewhere in south-central England.

What would be cool is if GW made another mistake and sent a whole roll of 1 -- 2,000 numbered stickers to all 650 people who bought the limited edition.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
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 Kilkrazy wrote:
What would be cool is if GW made another mistake and sent a whole roll of 1 -- 2,000 numbered stickers to all 650 people who bought the limited edition.


I await the day I check ebay for 40k, see two codexes numbered 1, and know that thanks to GW's unique ability to cock up the most mundane of tasks, both will be equally legitimate...

 
   
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I'm hoping the mistake comes with a coupon as well I need more plasticrack
   
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My book finally came in today...and it was dented. I know, some of you will say 'But it's only a dent, just be happy you got a $165 book you paid extra for lolnoob #gwsucks'. I wouldn't buy a car off the lot with a flat tire or scratches. It's looking like a nice botch job, from where I'm sitting. Now mind you, I'm not getting mad or trying to whine or caps lock my feelings. I'm just disappointed while maintaining a level head.

That said, this is a super nice box set. Very high quality, it's really nice looking and has a great durable feel to it. It comes in a box, which is printed all over and has a magnetized seal. Inside are the 6 coins, which are actually made of metal and not 'burnished plastic' or whatnot. Real metal coins. There are 3 books inside, and a ribbon which makes it easier to take them out. Included is the Ork Book, Ghazzy Book and a book with all of the cover art from the first Ork book until now. I really like the alternate art on the Codex and Ghazzy book, but I'm a big fan of strong and simple design (Mondrian 4tw!).

DENT!




Please Insert Sticker Here:



Neat coins/objective markers:



Cool inside cover of the box

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I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness.
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Mine came with some not too noticeable dents at the corners. That dent is pretty bad.

Have to say like the content that came with the box. Was hoping for the cards though. Also was hoping for a limited edition coupon or something like what they did for the new store page.
   
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You get a limited edition mail card with it (or at least I did).

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 Dez wrote:
My book finally came in today...and it was dented. I know, some of you will say 'But it's only a dent, just be happy you got a $165 book you paid extra for lolnoob #gwsucks'. I wouldn't buy a car off the lot with a flat tire or scratches. It's looking like a nice botch job, from where I'm sitting. Now mind you, I'm not getting mad or trying to whine or caps lock my feelings. I'm just disappointed while maintaining a level head.

That said, this is a super nice box set. Very high quality, it's really nice looking and has a great durable feel to it. It comes in a box, which is printed all over and has a magnetized seal. Inside are the 6 coins, which are actually made of metal and not 'burnished plastic' or whatnot. Real metal coins. There are 3 books inside, and a ribbon which makes it easier to take them out. Included is the Ork Book, Ghazzy Book and a book with all of the cover art from the first Ork book until now. I really like the alternate art on the Codex and Ghazzy book, but I'm a big fan of strong and simple design (Mondrian 4tw!).

DENT!


Call the 1 800 GW customer support. I had problems with my Limited Edition Tyranid codex, and CS were great help. Yes they sell expensive products, but GW Customer Support puts it's money where it's mouth is. Call them, they will fix it for you, in most cases send you a new book. They did for me.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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I would not buy a limited edition but if I did and it came damaged I would send it back.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
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Yeah I'd be asking for a refund, there really is no excuse for it to be dented at that price. None of my books have been dented when they've arrived. They'd be getting taken back otherwise. YMMV.

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I called and emailed, they were out of the office for the holiday when I called.

"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"

I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness.
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I think people need to keep things in perspective; I've seen a lot of outrage over "how could they charge that kind of price and have errors, damage, etc..." It's a book, believe me I know its frustrating, but imagine my anger when I get a recall notice on my BMW for something that should have been done at the factory.

It can happen anywhere which is not an excuse; the only way to ensure this stuff stops happening is to stop purchasing their product and at some point hopefully the company takes notice... Wishful thinking I know lol.

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VanHallan wrote:
Hilarious. I am just laughing at the idea of buying the limited edition bs to begin with. GW messed up and anybody that bought that deserves it.

"The way I see it, GW doesn't charge enough for their product as is, so I'm going to spend a ton more money on a more expensive version of the same product."

lol. *golf clap* no sympathy here.


A little harsh, but I have to agree with the sentiment. People that buy limited edition stuff are responsible to a large extent for overall price rises. Buying limited edition shows GW that 40k fans are prepared to pay a premium for very little added value. This approach has been taken into the re-boxing of existing models and charging more for less of them.

There only used to be a... limited amount of limited edition stuff, then when 6th came everything became limited as GW realised their customers were huge mugs. Think about the message sales of LE edition stuff sends to GW. They must be laughing round the board room table that people would pay double for a different dust jacket.

If people want prices to go down, they need to stop paying lots more for very little extra. Plus, this time, you didn't even get your little number on the back.

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I would not blame buyers of limited editions. The 2,000 possible sales of the 7th edition special version are a drop in the ocean compared with the 100,000 or so generic copies that GW hope to sell.

However the end of year report will be available in a couple of weeks and then we shall see how successful 7th edition has been so far.

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We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
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I wish there was some medium to tell them that, for me at least, they're getting it wrong, but that the idea isn't without merit.

I would never, regardless of personal financial circumstances, good or bad, have forked out what they were asking for the LE 7th Ed rulebooks.

If they'd knocked out some nice, numbered, metal objective tokens by themselves for ~£15 however, I'd have been hitting F5 on pre order day like a loon.

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 azreal13 wrote:
I wish there was some medium to tell them that, for me at least, they're getting it wrong, but that the idea isn't without merit.

I would never, regardless of personal financial circumstances, good or bad, have forked out what they were asking for the LE 7th Ed rulebooks.

If they'd knocked out some nice, numbered, metal objective tokens by themselves for ~£15 however, I'd have been hitting F5 on pre order day like a loon.


Best way to show them they're getting it wrong is to not buy it.

Anyway, had a little Google and can up with a business opportunity for you - I'd buy them off you! http://uk.orakel.com/products/tokens/metal-tokens

Or, if you just want them for your own use http://engraved-tags.co.uk/numbered-tags/deep-engraved-tags/deep-engraved-25mm-tag

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Oh, I buy very little GW, I assure you. Certainly not the overpriced LE nonsense (though I did waver slightly over a Raven Guard LE codex.)
But that's only negative reinforcement, it doesn't in anyway express what I would buy if they made it available.

I'm too poor to raise the capital for the first option, and the second ones look too much like what they are (ID tags for dogs!) but thanks for looking!

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Honestly this is the only limited edition thing GW has done books wise that's excited me at all.

The book, a supplement book (LE too!), and 5 coins. Prints of past codex art/ current codex art.

I'm a sucker for coins...(that act as objective markers)

The fact that it was for my race/faction, and that it seemed like I was getting a decent amount of product for the tag...made it really the only acceptable LE purchase to me at least.


Its a big bummer that its flawed. Still I liked what I got. One of the factions I've collected are the deathskulls so I like the codex cover.

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I wonder if GW will be taking feedback at the open day?

They seem to have went from a very slow pace to frantic get loads of things out and charge as much as possible. Certainly in terms of Books anyway. Most recent kits have been hit or miss, thankfully FW are still going strong. Although they can be a bit pricey themselves. Definitely think that £70 for one HH book is an awful lot.


   
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The problem I see with these limited edition books is that I think they falsely suggest that there will be value to the books. First off. There's usually nothing unique about these books GW sells, they recycle photos, models and art. The art is questionable in my opinion. Personally I like the quality of the art in the FW books.
#2, these books, regardless of rarity won't hold value because the rules change so often.
Would a 6th edition number one limited edition really be worth much? The 6th edition didn't last long, it was not widely accepted.
The new ork codex isn't so spectacular that I think in the future it's going to be worth much, perhaps if Ghaz were made more powerful and more in line with an actual LoW.

If there had been a 3.5 Chaos Space marine limited edition book. I can see something like that being popular, hold value due to how many people still talk about that codex.

You'd have been Better off just buying these books separately

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I was hoping it showed today. Friday holiday means nothing delivered and USPS is fuzzy on Saturday.

As for the dent......... 2 weeks, no numbers and now a dent. Id call for sure and id even email the guy who emailed you on the numbers.

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In all honesty, i dont know what all the fuss is about, lets get real, it is not like the limited editions are going to be worth anything later down the line.
   
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Honestly I basically agree that the numbers don't technically mean much. The books value is going to be about as much as it would've had anyway.

I don't think the number being separate does anything other then annoy people at the quality of the book... all it really does is affect satisfaction with product.

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The number does not go in the book, it goes on the inside of the box.

So the number is not a way of distinguishing between books.

The "Limited Edition" refers to the set - 2 x books, coins, artwork and case.

And it never occurred to me that there would be a unique number, but I was dead keen to have it all, have it asap and have a nice set.

Its so nice I will probably buy a soft cover Codex to use in games.

#BonusWeek :-)

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The thing is that most folks that buy a limited edition buy it for the collectors value - and a numbered edition helps with the provenance.

A collector hopes that when the new edition comes out in six months then the book will at least retain its value, if not increase.

Making the number a sticker makes it easier to counterfeit, and drops the collectors value by a notch.

Mind you, once the books are out the door... there is no other reasonable way to get the numbers in the book.

I would suggest, if I thought that GW would listen, that the best option would be to sign the sticker, to make up for the bungle.

The Auld Grump

Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.

The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
 
   
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 TheAuldGrump wrote:


I would suggest, if I thought that GW would listen, that the best option would be to sign the sticker, to make up for the bungle.



A signed picture of Kirby in a pile of bare plastic space marines a-la American Beauty and meme-bold font "We're Sorry!"?

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 TheKbob wrote:
 TheAuldGrump wrote:


I would suggest, if I thought that GW would listen, that the best option would be to sign the sticker, to make up for the bungle.



A signed picture of Kirby in a pile of bare plastic space marines a-la American Beauty and meme-bold font "We're Sorry!"?
I was thinking more along the lines of the lead designer for the Ork codex....

The Auld Grump, but, hey, if a Cosmo centerfold of Kirby works for you....

Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.

The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along.
 
   
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 TheKbob wrote:
 TheAuldGrump wrote:


I would suggest, if I thought that GW would listen, that the best option would be to sign the sticker, to make up for the bungle.



A signed picture of Kirby in a pile of bare plastic space marines a-la American Beauty and meme-bold font "We're Sorry!"?


I could just see as they are pouring the marines on him for the photo shoot him saying "Hey what the heck are these things???"

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