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Mod note to the thread: Please, only post if you have something constructive to add. Missing limited edition numbers is a viable topic for discussion. If you're not interested in the LE books or numbering issue, please, simply don't post!

VanHallan wrote:
I apologize man, I shouldn't have trolled ya on that first post. We all have our guilty pleasures in life. Didn't mean to be disrespectful.

Thank you for owning up to this and apologizing, VanHallan, it is much appreciated!

Dragonzord wrote:
At least they're doing SOMETHING about it instead of saying 'well sorry, we'll get it better next time'

 cfoley wrote:
In most collections, flawed items are considered more valuable than perfectly flawed ones. They are rarer and hence more valuable.

Personally speaking, I would agree with this. Obviously, their sending stickers is not an ideal solution (ideally, they would have included numbers in the original shipment). But, they are addressing it, and who knows, it could add value since its a unique occurrence.

As to value, I bought one of the LE SM 'dexes (admittedly, a more popular item) and when I decided to part with it half a year later, it had actually increased in value. So, this is not necessarily a case of people simply paying more for something and throwing money away in the process; it can actually be a decent investment if you ever consider reselling it. Or, if you just enjoy it for it's own sake! That said, I have found the sticker shock to be too much to purchase any other of the LE books since then.

Hilarious! I hope I get a sticker over 2000 to make it worth more.

 Dez wrote:
GW does have stupendous customer service, I give them that. Ever contact PP for anything? So frustrating I stopped collecting and playing Trolls.

I find the exact inverse.

I contact GW over a completely curled sword for my Bretonnia that's in Finecast. I get a return reply of "oh, just hot water it." For the record, it's nearly a perfect circle. So yeah, no.

Privateer Press, on the other hand, has been super easy. I go to their simple web form, type out which parts are missing/damaged, and boom, in my hands 2 weeks later. I've done that for a base, a miscast part, and a missing part. Way easy and no "well have you tried fixing it yourself first?" nonsense.

Finecast.

I also bought the Warboss edition. Am I the only one that sees the uselessness in a sticker to represent the limited aspect? Something that could be peeled off, copied or altered, and then replaced? In effect, it is now the stickers that are a limited edition.

There's a saying in Mantic threads: "Mantic, almost." Are GW trying to steal Mantics crown as king of almost, but not quite getting there? ; p

They made a mistake here and are making attempts to correct it. Of all the faults people have with GW right now, this seems like a really minor gripe especially as they are trying to fix it.

I have a Warboss edition and it really doesn't bother me that much. I paid for a box with cool gubbins in it, not a piece of paper to tell me that im special.

It does seem like an incredibly minor thing to get upset about. The sticker has zero effect on the book being LE or not, all that they would have had is stickers in anyway and it's not like these books have any value as LE items anyway. It doesn't bother me at all and does seem like another thing just to be pointlessly angry about.

$165 for a product and something is not correct. No matter how small or large the error is this isnt right. Before i had the DA book in my hands last year, GW issued FAQs and erratas. Too boot, Dez dosent even have the book yet. Like i said before, return it and buy both books local. Yes i known you like the LE stuff but this is silly. I wouldnt accept this error.

 cfoley wrote:
In most collections, flawed items are considered more valuable than perfectly flawed ones. They are rarer and hence more valuable. Examples include:

coins where the casts have variations
coins where an imperfection tells you the mint
coins that have the incorrect obverse

What I'm saying is that the book without the number is the least value.
The book with the number stuck on by the owner is better.
But the book and number owned together but not stuck on is the most valuable combination.

At first I thought this as well, but then I figured if there was a whole run of GW books with the numbers missing it really wouldn't increase the value.

If the first 20 books had the numbers missing and the next 1980 did have their numbers, then the first 20 might be worth a bit more to a collector. If all 2000 are missing their numbers, I doubt it.

Though you might be right that if you keep the sticker and don't stick it in but a lot of other people either discard the sticker or stick it in, you might have something worth a bit more.

Overall it's a bit disappointing that GW would leave the numbers out, but I'm not sure what the best outcome would be for the collector.

I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Let me fill you in on something else that may or may not be significant.

I spoke to the LGS right when I learned about the Warboss Edition, and they said they MIGHT have access to one or two copies. There are only 5,000 Worldwide according to his rep. There's a bit of a number discrepancy there, I'm not sure if that was a miscommunication or somebody let out some information they shouldn't have. I know it's conspiracy theory, but what if....just what if...the numbers were exaggerated? I'm actually surprised you can still get the Warboss Edition with all the Ork players out there. The numbers are missing off of them? Look at the Void Shield Generator, there were 1,000 of them and they sold out in minutes. Again I'm just playing Devil's Advocate, something to think about. I'm not raging or whining, I'm an actual real live grown up. I'm just befuddled that this could have happened.

I didn't pay just to get a stamped number on the book, like I stated earlier I'm a bit of a bibliophile and a collector and fanatical about Orks. However I feel that leaving the numbering off altogether is a significant detail to leave off. GW are doing something about it, but the damage control at this point is a bit pointless in my opinion. Perhaps they should do a recall like GM, haha

Also, I'd normally get things through the LGS but the last time I ordered a Limited Edition item through the LGS they messed the order up and I didn't get what I wanted so I am extremely leery of making that mistake again.

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Mother of God...

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

I think what some people are missing is that for collectors, this is a big deal and for GW its a major mistake for something that's supposed to be a collector's edition.

For some it's "Eh, one mistake. No biggie."
For others its just one of many symptoms that shows GW to be a company that has no quality control and just doesn't care.

Micro and macro issues involved.
Me, I'd be pissed.

 thenoobbomb wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

You are not thinking big enough. You can make anything a limited edition. I am trying to point how absurd it is for GW to distribute stickers for this problem.

It really isn't a solution at all. I don't think GW understand what a LE is supposed to be. They know about them because they see other companies selling them, but the underlying concept is a mystery.

GorillaWarfare wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

You are not thinking big enough. You can make anything a limited edition. I am trying to point how absurd it is for GW to distribute stickers for this problem.

It really isn't a solution at all. I don't think GW understand what a LE is supposed to be. They know about them because they see other companies selling them, but the underlying concept is a mystery.

Can we please get some sort of meme going on here where people take pictures of the limited edition sticker stuck to random stuff like their cars, computers, children, etc.?

Stickers? My Limited edition Tyranid codex had them printed on them. Why would they be giving them stickers. Stickers mean nothing. How does GW know who got what number?

I mean didn't the Limited edition Chaos Space Marine codex, some didn't have any "tags" or "pieces of white paper with a number on it" while some had 2 of them? So there is really nothing really limited then if they just arbitrary throw in numbers.

Number 1 can in fact be 1250, so nothing special, when in fact it would have been. So now all the sticker means is just all the limited editions out there really mean nothing unless the number is printed on them. Wouldn't that be false advertising then? I mean they are selling a product that is really not authentic now.

It's very poor quality control. For a company with so many models and book before, it's really very poor form. It's a big mistake but it was compounded by an equally poor solution.

I should think a reprint with a reissue is the solution. Even if it is a loss, they still owe it to their customers who have purchased it with the actual proper product in mind. If they didn't want 2000 unnumbered copies floating around, they can even do a one for one exchange.

 slowthar wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

You are not thinking big enough. You can make anything a limited edition. I am trying to point how absurd it is for GW to distribute stickers for this problem.

It really isn't a solution at all. I don't think GW understand what a LE is supposed to be. They know about them because they see other companies selling them, but the underlying concept is a mystery.

Can we please get some sort of meme going on here where people take pictures of the limited edition sticker stuck to random stuff like their cars, computers, children, etc.?

YES!

 Dez wrote:

 slowthar wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:

 thenoobbomb wrote:

GorillaWarfare wrote:
I don't think anyone here appreciates the significance of this. You can take that sticker and stick it on anything.
GW has literally just handed over the power to make anything a limited edition.

Except for the fact that limited edition codex/army books have another cover and all that.

You are not thinking big enough. You can make anything a limited edition. I am trying to point how absurd it is for GW to distribute stickers for this problem.

It really isn't a solution at all. I don't think GW understand what a LE is supposed to be. They know about them because they see other companies selling them, but the underlying concept is a mystery.

Can we please get some sort of meme going on here where people take pictures of the limited edition sticker stuck to random stuff like their cars, computers, children, etc.?

YES!

YES! again. Once we know what the stick is like we can photo edit it into anything.

If/when I get the sticker, I'm going to make a "Limited Edition" Flash Gitz box.

Real limited editions such as short run art prints are hand numbered by the artist to add to their provenance and value.

 Dez wrote:
Let me fill you in on something else that may or may not be significant.

I spoke to the LGS right when I learned about the Warboss Edition, and they said they MIGHT have access to one or two copies. There are only 5,000 Worldwide according to his rep. There's a bit of a number discrepancy there, I'm not sure if that was a miscommunication or somebody let out some information they shouldn't have. I know it's conspiracy theory, but what if....just what if...the numbers were exaggerated? I'm actually surprised you can still get the Warboss Edition with all the Ork players out there. The numbers are missing off of them? Look at the Void Shield Generator, there were 1,000 of them and they sold out in minutes. Again I'm just playing Devil's Advocate, something to think about. I'm not raging or whining, I'm an actual real live grown up. I'm just befuddled that this could have happened.

Interesting point Dez. What IF GW made more than 2k LE ork sets? What type of EPIC screw up would that be? I would like to know how many people on Dakka got the LE version alone.

How about GW didn't make 2,000 of 'em. They instead made 6,000 of them, and didn't want anyone to know? And so they send out random stickers to people. Do you think they are actually going to take the time to figure out who was order #1, #345, #2000? Hah! The amount of time and effort required would be insane.

Da Butcha wrote:
Only problem is, I cancelled my Warboss edition. I realized I didn't like the covers, and wasn't getting the cards (WD said they were included, GW website said they weren't).

No cards. I did a double-take when I saw that in WD, because I'd already pre-ordered the Warboss edition and cards on the info that there weren't cards with the Warboss edition.

I have a genuine question: Why are the numbers so important? Does it increase the value if the number is lower or does it prove that the book is legit?

I just want to add on the value of it... I'm okay with it. I mean, I feel like the normal codices are overpriced, but given that context, the Warboss Edition wasn't so bad. Normal limited edition codices are what, $100? The Warboss edition was $165, but you got *two* limited edition books, plus art cards (which I swear I'm going to frame and put around my work desk), and objective tokens, in a decent box that actually has a magnet in it to help keep it closed. If I bought a limited edition codex and supplement normally, that's $200... without the extras.

This is the ONLY limited edition book I'd even consider, and only because Orks are my top army. I mean, seriously, in a huge way. They got me into the game when I was young, I've played them in 40K, WFB, Epic, BFG, Mordheim, Warmaster, Man'O'War, Blood Bowl, GorkaMorka, even Necromunda when it had rules (sort of). If Orks/Orcs were in a GW game, I was there. My main in WoW is an Orc because of my love for GW Orks/Orcs, and I played Orcs in the Warcraft games because of them. I can't stand playing Space Marine just because it makes the Orks look completely braindead and that offends me. So yeah, I'm an Ork guy. My reputation would take a hit if I didn't have this set.

Also, I was going to buy the Ghaz supplement anyway, this way I got it two weeks early. (That was the thing that drove me to do it. I figured the Ghaz book would have a lot of "must-have" stuff in it, and I'd be spending $100 on the two books anyway, might as well go the distance...)

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I have a genuine question: Why are the numbers so important? Does it increase the value if the number is lower or does it prove that the book is legit?

Bit of both, I think.

Reminds me of when they messed up the Apocalypse LE. I was pleasantly surprised to receive this in the mail:

If we started s thread on how many times GW has screwed up a product we would crash Dakka and perhaps the WWW.