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Yeah true, if GW do bring out some ramriders i doubt i'll get any, as it will be damn expensive to get a feasible amount...

I have to say i am becoming more and more impressed with the GW stores now. I think the staff are actually more interested in the hobby than the guys at HQ. the one i go to in Cambridge has two great guys, and one actually asked me if i wanted a game of the Hobbit, not me having find someone who played! However GW instincts kicked in when i said i was interested in Deathstorm...

I don't really have a problem with the staff in the stores. They are a little pushy but that is mandated from above and they have very stressful sales targets to meet. The guy remaining in Dusseldorf after they closed their amazing HQ store is pretty nice and has a good attitude.

WRT Bard the Bowman only having a sword in the movie, yeah, I found that dumb too I suppose. And considering they have a model of him using a Windlance which was never even in the movie at all...

I need your opinions guys. Thranduil, King of the Woodland Realm has 3 attacks and 2 hand weapons making him a base 4 attacks then adds +1 for fighting on foot, then adds +1 for each enemy beyond the first. So essentially he is on foot base 5 attacks? with the potential up to 8? or does the bonus attacks not have a limit like knife fighter special rule?

As there is no rule in the main rulebook about 2 hand weapons adding 1 attack that I can see, I would argue he gets 3 base, the 1 extra from his special rule/fighting on foot/2 hand weapons, for 4 base, and then a further +1 (up to +6, as that's the most models you could get touching him at any time) from the enemy models.

So a base of 4 (on foot) and a maximum total of 10 is my reading.

I agree with the above, another attack is only gained from two hand weapons if specified in the profile entry. 10 attacks is pretty beasty though!

 Paradigm wrote:
As there is no rule in the main rulebook about 2 hand weapons adding 1 attack that I can see, I would argue he gets 3 base, the 1 extra from his special rule/fighting on foot/2 hand weapons, for 4 base, and then a further +1 (up to +6, as that's the most models you could get touching him at any time) from the enemy models.

So a base of 4 (on foot) and a maximum total of 10 is my reading.

In general a second hand weapon has always added an extra attack.

The hamster may be dying, but the wheel still turns:

"White Council - Vanquishers of the Necromancer of Dol Guldor" £35
"Radagast on great Eagle" £40

Still nothing without rules in their supplement, though.


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From GBHL via One Ring, by the way.

And I bet at that cheaper price for the Council means we're getting an unconcious Gandalf at best, and none at all.

For that sort of price I hope these are the best models I will ever see ! £35 is just wow ! and then £40 !? Eesh

The worst part is that it's a 10 quid drop from the last WC set. Which is why I reckon it'll be OP-mode Galadriel, armoured Elrond and then another Saruman, and a prone/unconcious Gandalf.

What I don't get is why they've dedicated sculptors to doing another White Council when each has at least 3 versions, and a full model for Radagast on Eagle that could just be an add-on to the plastic one, instead of actually filling the gaps in the game like Dain (hell, anything from the Iron Hills) or armoured Azog?

Obviously they aren't high on the priority list which seems completely bizarre ! I just hope they are on the work bench also or it will be the final nail in the coffin of their support for the game ! Only time will tell...

They know from experience how popular Gandalf is and love making him! This was also the case with the original LotR line... We can still hope for Iron Hills stuff as it makes a lot of sense for GW to make, both for the community, license, and moneys.

This new stuff is promising, a sign for things to come? Edit: This is wrong: (Also, I think that the White Council box is £45, at least that's what it says on OR) it is £35... still will have a prone/dying Gandalf, an exhausted/prone Galadriel, a passive casual-looking Saruman, and an Elrond who doesn't know how to hold a sword properly...

 Captain Galenus wrote:
still will have a prone/dying Gandalf, an exhausted/prone Galadriel

Surely they wouldn't make a box with 50% useless models in it!? Oh, wait...

On a side note, I just had a very surreal moment seeing my own minis come up in a Google Image search for 'GW White Council 2015'...

 Paradigm wrote:

 Captain Galenus wrote:
still will have a prone/dying Gandalf, an exhausted/prone Galadriel

Surely they wouldn't make a box with 50% useless models in it!? Oh, wait...

On a side note, I just had a very surreal moment seeing my own minis come up in a Google Image search for 'GW White Council 2015'...

haha why make useful models, eh?

yeah, I know how you feel! I once was looking for some stills from the Hobbit and found myself looking at some of my minis!

I must admit a very big part of me is hoping for iron hills dwarves and that they are amazingly sculpted. I think hat would push me over the edge of not buying hobbit miniatures to buying them. Though I cant get more good guys, I have 2 full 1000 point armies, I need to get another evil army !

Oh yeah, even if they are Finecast this may be the army that fully tips me over the edge to against all my previous mantras... My issues with armies is that I have too many in general amd can't physically paint them all!

 Captain Galenus wrote:
Oh yeah, even if they are Finecast this may be the army that fully tips me over the edge to against all my previous mantras... My issues with armies is that I have too many in general amd can't physically paint them all!

i have been picking and choosing what i really like. I first got in with gladhrim elves(which will always be #1 for me) but i have been collecting other armies of interest since. Small forces anyway

Yeah, I 'inherited' a whole load of minis when my friends/brothers moved away from the game, and I keep seeing things that are cool that I want to build so it becomes a steady build up of minis in my box...

One of the reasons I love the LotR Allies system. I can have Warbands for pretty much any army and throw them together into an army, so while I have 2 'main' forces (Gondor and Mordor) I can plug in and play anything from Rivendell Elves to Black Numenoreans. Apart from Hobbits, I've got a little bit of just about everything as a result.

Totally agree, it's nice to be able t have really thematic armies for fun play, as well as possible deadly combos for serious tournaments. My only issue is that if it is abused results can become a little silly and start to completely change the mechanics of an arm - e.g. a wood elf army designed as small skirmishers that make use of range and woodland allying with some cheeky Knights of Dol Amroth to get some massive charges in. I don't mind playing it, just not against it!!!

Hwy got some news ! Pictures are up of the Radagast on the eagle and the white council. I'm on my phone at the moment so cant reliably paste the links but in the meantime check out The One ring forums for pictures

Do you have a link to the One Ring forum? sounds really interesting, or is it Cubicle 7's? thanks!

http://www.one-ring.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30219&start=20

There you go, I hope that works. Saruman looks really awesome, Elrond is a bit lack luster and the same with Galadriel. Radagast I am a bit undecided about but hey ho.

Here you go. It's a good forum, one of the best for LotR gaming stuff: http://www.one-ring.co.uk

As for pics, here we go:


Pretty poor if you ask me. Elrond is tripping over and spraining his side, Galadriel appears to have stumbled into the Wood Elf dressing room for the new WFB film and it may be the angle but Saurman's face looks like he just ran into a wall.

Can't copy Radagast, but here's a link.
http://descansodelescriba.blogspot.no/2015/01/imagenes-de-las-novedades-de-el.html
Pretty dull, not worth a new model really (just buy the sleigh and Eagles set and magnetise for basically the same thing)

damn work computer has blocked the images



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From what it looks like(on my phone) i quite like them. not enough to buy MORE of the same characters but i am not displeased

I love them. thanks for the link Paradigm.

I was just assuming that sarumans face was a bend in the page or something ? I hope my assumption is right because they couldn't ruin a model that much !

If it is just that, then yeah, Saruman has a nice pose. But I don't think that Galadriel is anywhere near as cool as the old War Form one.

I'd agree, ilI think the past sxulpts of Galadriel are better than this one, its just lacking that wow factor. It could be possible that its just the paint job as it doesn't really look all that great.

As a sculpt I think it's quite nice actually, Galadriel. I prefer it to the one where she has the hood up and is holding her hand out. Like the other two as well. But 35 sterling for three man sized miniatures in Finecast is too over priced for me. I would happily pick up the figures for 25-30 euro, but these will be in the 40-45 range I expect, which is far too much.

speaking of new LOTR I just got ebay happy..............

picked up all these boxes just now



all complete 3 of which still shrink wrapped.........................spent way too much but still well under retail. FML thats lot of building and painting