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Holy hell watch the baneblade take the lead!!

Because Beihnblehdz are better looking, fluffier and less op than IK.

Rule of Cool is showing its face here.

Also you ARE playing IG and a lot of people take issues with Allies, or will at least suggest stuff that doesn't require Allies before stuff that does.

Also I probably would try to play your Hellhammer + Crusader list in a large enough game, though I realize that means bugger all since I'm in a different country and deathly afraid of meeting internet people.

IK is way too popular, its more likely to see a knight on a table then a bane blade. I haven't even played against a bane blade yet!

The shadowsword is great tbh, hide it in some cover and snipe knights and other LOW's

aronthomas17 wrote:
The shadowsword is great tbh, hide it in some cover and snipe knights and other LOW's

Yeah, it seems to be one of the most popular BANEBLADES, if not the most popular.

Funnily enough, the IG-playing guy who introduced me to 40k hates the Shadowsword for this reason (his favorite is the Stormlord, though he also likes the Hellhammer).

The stormlord is good in apoc for taking ground when your IG platoon would normally get flattened by whatever scary guns your opponent has, I wouldn't recommend one in a normal game!!! Just my opinion though

Baneblad more acceptable as it not as good as ik

Uhhh....so... some people are voting Baneblade because... IK is better? Way to give advice

 Talys wrote:
Uhhh....so... some people are voting Baneblade because... IK is better? Way to give advice

It /is/ better, just not in the rules

Any of the IKs are better overall, but people love the Baneblade based platforms. I've owned a resin Baneblade for over 20 years (Armourcast), yet the entire time I've dreamed of fielding Knights. Now I can. Knight's rule, Baneblade's drool.

SJ

A little off topic, but a super-heavy tank nevertheless... My vote goes for a Macharius Vulcan. It looks badass, you'll need a bucket of dice for all the dakka it spits, and it is arguably more common in the fluff, but more unique on the table than a Baneblade variant or IK! It eat's entire squads of MEQ from the other side of the table in a cinch and, with the right buffing, will take out flyers and AV13, including IKs, in a round or two of shooting!

 Crabbit wrote:
A little off topic, but a super-heavy tank nevertheless... My vote goes for a Macharius Vulcan. It looks badass, you'll need a bucket of dice for all the dakka it spits, and it is arguably more common in the fluff, but more unique on the table than a Baneblade variant or IK! It eat's entire squads of MEQ from the other side of the table in a cinch and, with the right buffing, will take out flyers and AV13, including IKs, in a round or two of shooting!

By the sounds of it he probably wants to stick to Citadel models/standard rules, not Forge World stuff.

I also was thinking of picking up a baneblade, and would love to magnetize it when I do. Is it really possible to make a single tank with all 8 variants? Anyone have a link to a good tutorial on how to do it?

Thanks!

Just used a Hellhammer in a 1,000 point game.
It will be dead by turn two, and will kill around 30-50% of its points in two shooting phases.

Still would take one over a knight.

 CrashGordon94 wrote:

 Crabbit wrote:
A little off topic, but a super-heavy tank nevertheless... My vote goes for a Macharius Vulcan. It looks badass, you'll need a bucket of dice for all the dakka it spits, and it is arguably more common in the fluff, but more unique on the table than a Baneblade variant or IK! It eat's entire squads of MEQ from the other side of the table in a cinch and, with the right buffing, will take out flyers and AV13, including IKs, in a round or two of shooting!

By the sounds of it he probably wants to stick to Citadel models/standard rules, not Forge World stuff.

Just letting him know there are many other cool super-heavies available as LoW for the IoM from FW. If it is 40K approved, you are good to go!

Baneblade has been kicking the knights ass...

Also Selym, I have a feeling the baneblade would survive longer and be able to dish out more damage if it was supported by the rest of an IG army in say a 1850-2000 pt game. I could be wrong though.

Yea, the support I gave it was terrible.
And was against a tri-las-pred squadron.
And a Land Raider. And Terminators.

I was screwed from the start.

If I had things like Paskisher on the table, the opponents AT fire would have some herd choices.

I own both and honestly I would go for the Baneblade, reaons being after the shock facter of playing a knight (I call them Half blood titans, or Demi Titans) they are decent all arounders but the Baneblade can be talored to a role better(Case in point errant is the knight AV killer /Shadow sword is the Baneblase counter) as for the HellHamer that you are asking about it kills alot of things good and for the turreted version it has a higher chance compared to the Mars Baneblade but remember you are sacraficing range and there for have a very high chance of being charged where the bane blade loses. so think of what you want to do with it. If you are taking it to kill knights make it kill knights (Shadow) with LC sponsons you can fire at up to 3 IN units and 3 AV units and will almost alwasy remove something off the table. if you need just a pinch unit go for the BaneBlade cant put that glorious beast in a bad spot and for heavy cover tables and citys HellHammers. thats my 2 Cents though.

 Crabbit wrote:
Just letting him know there are many other cool super-heavies available as LoW for the IoM from FW. If it is 40K approved, you are good to go!

True enough, but I wouldn't blame him if he didn't want to deal with expensive fiddly models or new books.

I am voting Baneblade... Because its a Fraking BANEBLADE!

If you don't have the apoc templates and want to field a baneblade, what's the best alternative?

Escalation.

No, he said Apoc TEMPLATES.
i.e. He doesn't have the Massive Blast and Apocalyptic Blast templates.

The Stormlord has a "point and shoot" weapon and the Shadowsword's has a Large Blast cannon.

Use a measuring tape.
Blasts are measured by diameter:

Small: (Can't remember, but it's tiny)
Large: 5"
Massive: 7"
Apoc: 10", IIRC

All you need to do, is half the diameter, measure that out on the tape, place the tape over the center of the blast, and anything within that distance is hit.

Hey, why not go with an unbound super-heavy tank company ?


But, yeah. If you haven't got any apocalypse templates, then that's a point in favour of the shadowsword.

It's an iconic tank, and whilst it's not invincible - far from it - it does nevertheless keep people honest with the terrifying potential of that volcano cannon. Every couple of games it'll manage Dat Shot which goes straight through an imperial knight or a riptide without slowing down....

At the same time, the Imperial Knight is better. The melee destruction of a Reaper Chainsword - plus the virtual immunity to assault itself, and the benefits of an invulnerable save against melta/haywire weapons, make it a better use of points, plus it's cheaper.

I still like big tanks, though.

Selym wrote:Use a measuring tape.
Blasts are measured by diameter:

Small: (Can't remember, but it's tiny)
Large: 5"
Massive: 7"
Apoc: 10", IIRC

All you need to do, is half the diameter, measure that out on the tape, place the tape over the center of the blast, and anything within that distance is hit.

Certainly doable, but would be a pain to do, I could imagine, particularly when dealing with scatter.

locarno24 wrote:Hey, why not go with an unbound super-heavy tank company ?

Because nobody would probably want to play against it, I could imagine.

I would love to play against a Super-heavy tank company. Would be easily taken apart.

If you are geared for it, or it could wreck , in the end it comes on how its played

I don't need to tailor my normal list. I assume I will see a super heavy or 3 across the table in every game. So I bring the tools to deal with them. And it doesn't hurt my effectiveness either.