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 Kilkrazy wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:


It isn't hard to qualify for overseas if you've already got through six years of medical school and several more of OTJ training.

It's actually very hard. Many countries do not offer parity in education or training.

Here are the details if you're interested.

I am interested, but where are the details?

I falsely assumed you meant actually leaving Europe to practice.

The BMA has a section about it.
http://www.bma.org.uk/developing-your-career/career-progression/working-abroad/

Do British doctors have to pass the USMLE to get a license in Britian?

 Da Boss wrote:
Ireland is an option, and we're crying out for medical staff (though they might find our HSE even more toxic than the NHS to be honest!).

And there's also continental Europe to be considered, picking up the language is not as big a barrier as people think.

Hands off, Scotland has dibs On which point...

 Da Boss wrote:
It's a damn shame, I was impressed by the NHS when I lived in the UK. I find the service and choice in the German system a bit better, but it's a lot more expensive for that small improvement in care. The NHS is excellent value for money and I do love the ethos of it as true public service. Wonderful organisation, and truly one of the things I love most about the UK.

Remember there is no such thing as a UK NHS - there's a health service in each nation run by the devolved governments(England's being run by the UK government). As health is devolved we've largely resisted privatisation, we've even rolled back much of the "internal marketisation" introduced by Thatcher, later championed by Blair plus brought some support services back into public control, and other than the legacy of Labour's obsession with PFI/PPP deals it's never been in better shape.

Still problems to solve of course, and an influx of hardworking English junior doctors should help immensely - thanks Jeremy Hunt!

Mdlbuildr wrote:
Do British doctors have to pass the USMLE to get a license in Britian?

I assume you mean doctors trained in the UK. Presumably not, since the UK has a full medical training system that licences doctors in the UK.

Mdlbuildr wrote:
Do British doctors have to pass the USMLE to get a license in Britian?

Seriously?

There's a whole world outside of the USA you know?

 notprop wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
Do British doctors have to pass the USMLE to get a license in Britian?

Seriously?

There's a whole world outside of the USA you know?

Yep, and part of that world outside the USA requires the USLME before giving out a license to practice Medicine in their country.

There's a whole world outside Europe!

Mdlbuildr wrote:
Yep, and part of that world outside the USA requires the USLME before giving out a license to practice Medicine in their country.

There's a whole world outside Europe!

Which ones specifically? There are a handful of countries that will recognize the USMLE but I can't seem to find any that require what would be a foreign licensing before their own doctors can practice domestically.

 Ouze wrote:

Mdlbuildr wrote:
Yep, and part of that world outside the USA requires the USLME before giving out a license to practice Medicine in their country.

There's a whole world outside Europe!

Which ones specifically? There are a handful of countries that will recognize the USMLE but I can't seem to find any that require what would be a foreign licensing before their own doctors can practice domestically.

I'm not sure what you're asking. There are countries that require the USMLE if a foreign doctor wants to emigrate there to practice Medicine. NZ, Australia, the USA, Mexico and even Canada has a USMLE equivalent that have to be passed before they consider giving out a license to practice medicine in their country.

Check out the link Killkrazy posted previously. It's not altogether accurate, but it'll do for the sake of argument. Also, be aware that passing said test is only part of the requirement in many countries. There are other training stipulations that many can't comply with, requiring redoing part of their residency training.

I guess my thought would be that if Doctors in Europe are that disenfranchised with the system, they would look else where to practice.

Do all countries in Europe recognize the medical license given in the UK and the residency training required as equal to the ones in their own country?

You seem to have asked if doctors from a non-US country are required to pass a United States licensing before they can practice medicine in their own countries. That would be a bizarre situation and I don't think it actually exists anywhere.

Mdlbuildr wrote:
USMLE equivalent

They have similar exams, not the same. They each have their own licensing bodies, as does the UK. In the UK you need to have a gmc license to practice, which has it's own requirements.

Mdlbuildr wrote:

Do all countries in Europe recognize the medical license given in the UK and the residency training required as equal to the ones in their own country?

Yes, as long as they qualified after 1976. Well, all EEA countries, which is not quite the same as all European countries, but near enough.

The BMA web page gives some info about practising overseas if you are a British trained doctor.

Any EEA trained doctor holding a recognised qualification (in the UK this would be B.M. B.Ch or equivalent) is entitled to register and work anywhere within the EEA. In some specialisms retraining might be required. Obviously there is also a language consideration.

Here is a story about German doctors commuting to the UK to do weekend GP work. They note the language difficulty and the fact that German doctors see a lot less paediatrics than British. (IDK why this should be.)

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jun/17/germany.society

It is becoming more popular for British students to go to medical schools in the rest of Europe. The savings on tuition and living expenses can be substantial.

In case people are interested, here is a page for international non-EEA doctors interested in working in the UK.

http://www.nhsemployers.org/case-studies-and-resources/2014/08/working-and-training-in-the-nhs-a-guide-for-international-medical-graduates

Thanks for the explanations everyone.

Sorry if my questions seem odd. I really didn't know so was trying to understand the system in your part of the world. Apologies.