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 Da Boss wrote:
Just saw this blog, lovely stuff. Having started in 28mm, I was intimidated to try Epic, but I think the sorts of stories I like best about the 40K universe are absolutely best told in that scale. Shame the minis are a bit hard to track down. I always regretted not getting into the re-release. If something in that scale comes out again, I'll be delighted.

One of the reasons I left 40K behind was the integration of Epic scale stuff into what is the world's most bloated skirmish game. I just don't like how it looks or feels to be doing that outside of special scenarios.

There are plenty of 3rd parties out there who make great proxy models. Another thing you might wanna if you wanna capture the big scale of these battles is playing in 3mm.

Wow - thanks so much for that Private Benjamin! I had been trying to remember what the name of that range was

I had a great collection of those toys - will have to see if there are any still about on the 'Bay, and if any of them can be repurposed for Epic (for terrain, objectives and the like)

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Scale creep has bothered me for the last... 28 years? haha

If this comes out and is somehting I'm interested in I'll likelt just reboot my original armies (Imperial / Ork / Chaos) and include some new stuff that doesn't wonk the scale too much.

Judging by their most recent releases I'll be surprised if it isn't another "board game". I've not seen anything about it yet other than that ass-kicking video that made the hair on my arms stand up. I want to be excited about this, but I also wanted to be excited about Shadespire and Necromunda.

I think the latest news is that there might be some new Space Marine things (infantry). However one of the great (and more heartening) pieces of news was that the new AT has been scaled to work with the existing epic ranges. It's nice that GW have been mindful of the existing community with the new Titan releases.

Da Boss wrote:Just saw this blog, lovely stuff. Having started in 28mm, I was intimidated to try Epic, but I think the sorts of stories I like best about the 40K universe are absolutely best told in that scale. Shame the minis are a bit hard to track down. I always regretted not getting into the re-release. If something in that scale comes out again, I'll be delighted.

One of the reasons I left 40K behind was the integration of Epic scale stuff into what is the world's most bloated skirmish game. I just don't like how it looks or feels to be doing that outside of special scenarios.

Completely agree. Was a massive fan of 40k up until the big plastic kits of super-heavies, titans and the like started appearing on boards. There is nothing like a pick-up game, your opponent plonking one of those mega-vehicles on the table, then pie-plate templates being placed down that wipe out a couple of squads of marines (that have taken a month to convert & paint) on a 2+. The game was always meant to be about squad to platoon level combat, but has lost its way.

If you're interested in picking up Epic again please take a look at the guide in my signature, which I put together for new players. It's very easy to get the rules, minis from ebay and there are tons of 3rd party proxy minis available now, it's very cheap to get a force up together for the game.

wow, fantastic stuff. I hadn't seen your log before so it was great seeing some new epic. The world eaters are fantastic, I've never gotten the hang of doing white at this scale, but the work you have done is superb!

Just a small update. Have been taking a bit of a break from wargaming miniatures to do some plastic kit building, which I've found to be challenging in different ways (although with some transferable skills, will hopefully be able to airbrush minis now without destroying them with 50PSI!)

Have got these guys painted up in the meantime, some of the old plastic ork dreadnoughts, which I've painted up in yellow. These look a little dull, so will try and brighten up any future minis I do for this clan.



Have seen that the new AT stuff has now been released - although am desperately avoiding looking as I know it will mean me shelling out at a time when I already have several other projects on the go!

Fantastic job on the little guys.

I am disappointed with AT, wanted an Epic reboot, but it's just Imperial giant robots. Really nothing special. loved the old Epic with the massed companies of men and tanks, as well as the giant robots, and all the races included.

 Camkierhi wrote:
Fantastic job on the little guys.

I am disappointed with AT, wanted an Epic reboot, but it's just Imperial giant robots. Really nothing special. loved the old Epic with the massed companies of men and tanks, as well as the giant robots, and all the races included.

Have you considered 3mm?

 Camkierhi wrote:
Fantastic job on the little guys.

I am disappointed with AT, wanted an Epic reboot, but it's just Imperial giant robots. Really nothing special. loved the old Epic with the massed companies of men and tanks, as well as the giant robots, and all the races included.

I think the point you've mentioned there is why it won't get a full reboot - there are just too many lines, at least if it was to be done in any kind of meaningful form. Remember you have pretty much everything from 40k, and then extra stuff which works in 6mm but wouldn't in 28mm. GW already has a packed release schedule and reproducing a full 6mm line would take up a big chunk of that.

Not saying it won't happen and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I think it's that practical obstacle that a lot of people calling for a new version of the game seem to be overlooking.

Just a quick update as I've had a little hobby time over Xmas. Got these bad boys as part of a mixed Ebay deal - have now been paint stripped (think they were Emperor's Scythes previously? Anyway they are now going to be co-opted into Angron's legion). Cut off the side sponsors as have always thought they don't look very good. Painted versions coming up soon hopefully!

Got these guys painted up over the hols - have to say it's nice bringing back to life something that has probably sat unloved in a shoe box for the past 20 years.

Painted up as the 12th legion, and as said removed the side sponsors. Never thought they looked particularly good on the miniature and these were damaged, so gave me an excuse to remove them. Added a little weathering to them, and some decals from both the recent FW World Eater set and some old 40k chaos decals for the World Eater logo - the first warning signs were starting to appear with these guys!



Any C&C welcome - might be a bit of a break now as I get a Blood Bowl team and Kingdom Death finished off, but hopefully back before too long!

A Great-Crusade era Fellblade for the World Eater legion.

I have no idea where this miniature originates. I don't think it's GW (it may be, as I was out of the loop for a while) and I bought it 2nd hand from eBay, where you occasionally see one surface.
But regardless it's a bloody lovely sculpt - and look at the scale next to a Rhino!

Any C&C very welcome

fantastic, that fellblade is a beast!

Cheers man!

Some pics of some Ork Kult of Speed. These are a mix of the classic vehicles (I think Gobsmackas, Bowelburnas.. ?) and some Skinnerz Bikers from Vanguard Miniatures

Some more minis to add to the World Eater Legion - this time some Rampagers. Miniatures are from HLS, from the old Exodus Wars range. Think the skulls, blades do a pretty good job for close-combat bad boys!
https://hlsmodels.com/collections/exodus-wars/steel-crown-productions





And their true allegiance is already starting to make itself known!

I haven't posted here for a while, but here's a small diorama I made. Some leftover minis from a tactical unit, a spare Rhino and damaged old Dreadnought that has had some minor conversion work for some battle damage.

The marines are from Vanguard Miniatures, Rhino and Dreadnought are classic GW minis (pretty sure the Dreadnought was lead so is definitely getting on!)

Final shot for scale - 'The last stand'

Unfortunately I've neglected to update this blog in a while but here are some more of the boys in white and blue

Love epic and always like to see more of it.
The painting is absolutely solid too.

Couple of things;

That fellblade looks to be the old forumware sculpt.
Searching that on eBay tends to bring up stuff from time to time (as well as searching for “fan made warhammer”)
There are also variants of the other legion tanks about too.

Is that a contemptor dreadnought fist on the sgt?
Seems to scale up pretty decently for it.

On the lines of buying, keep an eye on eBay as a 30k epic sculpt of him pops up from time to time for between £5-£10.
Usually resin and you can find it by searching epic primarch or “6mm angry marine” when they are about.
I managed to grab my Vulkan from a guy who had them all up for a while before being removed from eBay.

 Pacific wrote:

For the Empress!

Lovely stuff, still have a soft spot for epic.

Jackal90 wrote:

That fellblade looks to be the old forumware sculpt.
Searching that on eBay tends to bring up stuff from time to time (as well as searching for “fan made warhammer”)
There are also variants of the other legion tanks about too.

Is that a contemptor dreadnought fist on the sgt?
Seems to scale up pretty decently for it.

On the lines of buying, keep an eye on eBay as a 30k epic sculpt of him pops up from time to time for between £5-£10.
Usually resin and you can find it by searching epic primarch or “6mm angry marine” when they are about.
I managed to grab my Vulkan from a guy who had them all up for a while before being removed from eBay.

Thanks Jackal - yes I do keep an eye out. There was a German guy selling amazing forumware sculpts of all of the FW stuff. It wasn't cheap but was of high quality. Sadly it has disappeared entirely now.

There are a few people on this forum that have shown off painted forumware products. The few I have contacted directly have either not replied or the reply was "no and do not contact me again". There is obviously a very tight community around that side of things (which I haven't been able to become part of even over probably 20yrs and more of this forum, B&C, even back to Relic etc.) and I think even though GW seems a lot more relaxed these days there is still fear remaining of legal notices and the like.

Fortunately the likes of Vanguard and Onslaught miniatures have started making some really great Epic proxies, which means I can still collect and paint without having to be part of the underground

Dude, they are beautiful :-) Google "Fawcett Avenue Conscripts" and check out the epic 30k stuff those guys have got hold of, might be worth dropping them a PM to see where they got them from- all manner of superheavy exotica and even a Horus Lupercal!

Thanks for the heads-up - what an awesome blog! Have just spent a fair amount of time looking through it, I'll see if I can contact them about some of their minis (the super heavies in particular) and see if I can get hold of any

A very quick update - An Ork Weirdboy tower with minder vehicles. Loved this mini back in the day and was able to get hold of one at a fairly good deal from the 'Bay

A Great-Crusade era Fellblade for the World Eater legion.

I have no idea where this miniature originates

Looks like the one from vanguard miniatures, it is where i get most of my epic 40K stuff.

Great work BTW. they all look fantastic.

 Pacific wrote:
Thanks for the heads-up - what an awesome blog! Have just spent a fair amount of time looking through it, I'll see if I can contact them about some of their minis (the super heavies in particular) and see if I can get hold of any

A very quick update - An Ork Weirdboy tower with minder vehicles. Loved this mini back in the day and was able to get hold of one at a fairly good deal from the 'Bay

Beautiful work mate have you checked out the Epic scale Horus the Fawcett boys have got themselves? Where do they find these things?!?

Cheers for that Aphyon and Skinflint Games!

Another quick update. Some World Eater Spartan (equivalent) transports. What are they carrying inside? Probably something not very nice!
These miniatures are from the Vanguard Miniatures Novan Elite range - lovely little metal multipart minis, not expensive and I think better than any of the old GW Landraider minis.





Also some World Eater Destroyers. Always found the official 30k miniatures quite disappointing for these guys, you read about them having these horrendous, tremendously damaging outlawed weapons and then the miniatures are holding.. pistols. So not being restricted by WYSIWYG in Epic I have made these from a mix of 'tainted' minis, heavy and support weapons all again from Vanguard Miniatures Defeat in Detail range.

I also plan to get some drop pods to deploy these guys in.

Very nice. What are you using those Destroyers as, in-game? The AU Heresy list has them using jump packs, but your lads don't seem to have those.

Thank you Sherrypie. Yes I will use the AU Heresy list. Probably just bodge the stats slightly and give them a nominal points reduction and change of 15cm to 10cm movement speed.

Alternatively you could just run them ruleswise as tactical support squads for some close range AP goodness, though that does make them a bit less punchy.

Thanks that's a good idea. I don't the rules for Destroyers are that nasty TBH anyway (certainly not enough for the unit restrictions on them).

As an alternative I had thought of using them as a special unit in a narrative game - they are transporting a nuclear device (I need to do a conversion for this, some kind of bomb carrier) and need to get it to a certain point on the board. They aren't intended to return from that one!

Yeah, they're mostly just assault marines that have some piddly AP shooting with them, not that nasty but okay for 50 points more. My Death Guard won't mind the restrictions either, they get one group per 1000 points

...though it might've been a nice nod to all the phosphex they carry around if they'd had Ignore Cover as well, but hey.

My latest update, have completed some World Eater Cyclone missile launchers.

Anyone familiar with this blog will know these are set in the Great Crusade era, before the Legion turned into frothing lunatics. As such, they dealt with advanced tactical concepts such as 'shoot something so the enemy keep their heads down, before you charge at it, and which means less of your guys die'.

Interestingly, later World Eater tacticians could never work out why their casualty rates rose 98% after removing supporting fire units. Their response instead was to afix great big horns to their helmets, making them a larger target and meaning they could not fit through doorways, and also to paint their armour red, to cut down on cleaning supply charges from washing the marines own blood from their armour after they had charged headlong into defensive enemy positions once more

Hahah! Great little intro to the missile guys, and they look brilliant. I love this blog - had a quick flick back over the ork stuff and just adore how the Epic type minis seem to catch not only the scale of massive space battles but also the kitschy 40k vibe that has gone a bit missing from the newer grimdarkier models.

You've made some really nice ebay finds too, always a treat!

Thanks for sharing

You get me itching every time.