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Those units with 5++ are less durable to any kind of small arms, grav, and S8+ AP 2. Tactical terminators are legitimately the worst thing in the BA codex, which is the worst space marine codex.

Martel732 wrote:
Those units with 5++ are less durable to any kind of small arms, grav, and S8+ AP 2. Tactical terminators are legitimately the worst thing in the BA codex, which is the worst space marine codex.

And on those terrible units would you willingly choose to change your 5++ to a 6+ FNP?

I find the new book more fun than the bland previous codex. And if you like orks but don't want to play competitively Waaagh! Ghazghkull is worth looking into as well.

On a side note the ork codex change flavour when it's bloody ork against ork warrior. It's as if the codex has byen testet on that merit, and likely against 5th ed SM

Damn, hope a new codex arrives soon


and hope they put the old looted tank, letting us take any tank from the game and use his stats adding some special orky stuff and changes xD