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They'll still be going down sinks/ plug holes though. How else do you dispose of your paint pot water?

Won't be anywhere near the same levels as with hygiene products, but it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
They'll still be going down sinks/ plug holes though. How else do you dispose of your paint pot water?

Won't be anywhere near the same levels as with hygiene products, but it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

How many people paint with GW paints versus those who use hygiene products? The amount entering the environment through GW paints will have an infinitesimal impact compared to the amount entering it through hygiene products.

The existing bans from various countries (Canada, UK, etc) are specifically for cosmetics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbead

However, as sock says above, you're still going to get stuff down the drain when you wash your brushes or clean your paint pots. It's a drop in the ocean (heh) compared to cosmetics, but it's STILL putting gak in the water supply that doesn't belong.

I can't say I'm happy about it. But then, I don't have kids. feth the environment!

Weee!

*Runs outside, spraying 2 Aerosol hair spray bottles*

Weee!

What do these plastic beads do? I don't have a clue. Does it help mix the paint better when shaking?

they're in paint to add texture

kronk wrote:The existing bans from various countries (Canada, UK, etc) are specifically for cosmetics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbead

However, as sock says above, you're still going to get stuff down the drain when you wash your brushes or clean your paint pots. It's a drop in the ocean (heh) compared to cosmetics, but it's STILL putting gak in the water supply that doesn't belong.

I can't say I'm happy about it. But then, I don't have kids. feth the environment!

Weee!

*Runs outside, spraying 2 Aerosol hair spray bottles*

Weee!

As I noted above, the amount of microbeads entering the environment through GW paints will have a negligible effect unlike the amount of microbeads entering the environment through hygiene products has a measured, harmful effect on the environment.

Davor wrote:What do these plastic beads do? I don't have a clue. Does it help mix the paint better when shaking?

No. As noted, it's what gives the new Texture paints their texture. Currently the only paint GW manufactures with microbeads is Typhus Corrosion.

Davor wrote:
What do these plastic beads do? I don't have a clue. Does it help mix the paint better when shaking?

Davor, it's an additive to modeling paints that will give a texture like this when applied to a base:

Thank you Orlandothetechnocoloured, Ghaz and Kronk for the answers. The video and pics really helped. Greatly appreciated.

I didn't even know those paints existed Ghaz. Will have to see if my FLGS carries them or not. Also the new ones coming out as well.

 Ghaz wrote:

 sockwithaticket wrote:
They'll still be going down sinks/ plug holes though. How else do you dispose of your paint pot water?

Won't be anywhere near the same levels as with hygiene products, but it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.

How many people paint with GW paints versus those who use hygiene products? The amount entering the environment through GW paints will have an infinitesimal impact compared to the amount entering it through hygiene products.

My stance is that we shouldn't have these entering the environment completely unecessarily in any quantity. Just because one thing is worse than another doesn't mean the lesser one is ok.

The US is awful for greenhouse gas emissions, that doesn't mean the rest of the world shouldn't attempt to reduce theirs.

Plus hygiene products are starting to face legislation banning microbeads, so the issue on that front is improving.

At the quantity these will be entering the environment at from GW products, there are a lot more worrisome things entering the environment to go after.

 sockwithaticket wrote:
They'll still be going down sinks/ plug holes though. How else do you dispose of your paint pot water?.

I have some house plants in my window that get watered on a regular basis That said I have mixed feelings about this. Texture paints make basing much simpler and GW ones are probably the easiest for me to get hold of so any improvements are welcome. On the other hand I'd rather there were no microbeads involved even though the amount making there way into the environment from them will be tiny.

 Ghaz wrote:
At the quantity these will be entering the environment at from GW products, there are a lot more worrisome things entering the environment to go after.

Just to add for all those people who are suddenly environmentalists because of GW putting beads in paint. You've already dumped more plastic into the environment with trashing sprues for kits and washed more plastic down the drain washing your hands and clothes from all plastic shavings from cleaning kits. As Ghaz said, there are a lot worse things to worry about that we dump into the environment.

 silent25 wrote:

Just to add for all those people who are suddenly environmentalists because of GW putting beads in paint.

Not sure why you're preaching. I haven't seen any tree-huggers in this thread. Slow your roll.

 Ghaz wrote:

How many people paint with GW paints versus those who use hygiene products?

Based on my local FLGS, I would say these two demographics a definitely mutually exclusive.

I don't know about you lot, but I use a glue spreader when I use the textured paints. I make sure the spreader is pretty damn clean before I wash it.

 kronk wrote:

 silent25 wrote:

Just to add for all those people who are suddenly environmentalists because of GW putting beads in paint.

Not sure why you're preaching. I haven't seen any tree-huggers in this thread. Slow your roll.

Then why are we even talking about it if no one cares?

People are talking about it, so they do.

I care about the micro beads. I didn't even know they existed until now since I never see anything with them in Canada. So I think it should stay that way. I have a feeling these paints wont make it up here which is good.

 Gamgee wrote:
I care about the micro beads. I didn't even know they existed until now since I never see anything with them in Canada. So I think it should stay that way. I have a feeling these paints wont make it up here which is good.

Pointed out in another thread, but Liquitex already makes textured gels with glass and resin beads. I'm pretty sure it's available in Canada as well. My point is don't freak out about it. We're dumping a lot of plastic into the air, land, and water as is. There areas we can make more of an impact than worry about the bit that might go down the drain from this paint.

 General Kroll wrote:
The air range is going into the stores?

Saints be praised.

Yep, I'm doing a lot more with my airbrush lately, and it'd be damn nice to have those available at the local shop.

 Gamgee wrote:
I care about the micro beads. I didn't even know they existed until now since I never see anything with them in Canada. So I think it should stay that way. I have a feeling these paints wont make it up here which is good.

Good point. Something about how only in Canada we can only have black or white spray paint from GW. I don't think the other colours are available for what ever reason. I wonder if this will go down the same path.

Davor wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
I care about the micro beads. I didn't even know they existed until now since I never see anything with them in Canada. So I think it should stay that way. I have a feeling these paints wont make it up here which is good.

Good point. Something about how only in Canada we can only have black or white spray paint from GW. I don't think the other colours are available for what ever reason. I wonder if this will go down the same path.

Maybe in the future, but for now they'll be able to sell them as Canada's microbead ban only specifically targets cosmetic and cleaning companies.

Oh, cool, I'm glad they made the texture paints brush on now. Not that I'd use my nice brushes with them, though.

And don't worry, my green hearted friends. I'll be sure not to chuck these into my local river.

go to you local art supply store and buy yourself a massive amount of texture paint in varying kinds from Liquitex, the inventors of acrylic paint that we all love so dearly.

Onatrio means the land of a thousand lakes. It's basically a huge collection of lakes and rivers and a large water basin. Many of these run into each other and all over the place. Ontario is a pretty wet place because of this so any sort of pollution would be bad if it can be helped.

Given the fact that the Earth is dying I would rather not hasten it for some stupid plastic miniatures. I'm done with the Captain Planet stuff I got my opinion out. Back on topic.

 Gamgee wrote:
Onatrio means the land of a thousand lakes. It's basically a huge collection of lakes and rivers and a large water basin. Many of these run into each other and all over the place. Ontario is a pretty whet place because of this so any sort of pollution would be bad if it can be helped.

Given the fact that the Earth is dying I would rather not hasten it for some stupid plastic miniatures.

The Earth is not dying. It is undergoing an unfavorable environmental paradigm shift that ironically is both caused by us and is bad for us. Some forms of life just looove what we have done with the planet. Also, it's the equivalent of declaring that you slowed down global warming by riding your bike to work once. The tiny amount you might release by rinsing your brushes would be infinitesimal compared to what the cosmetics industry is doing.

Let's focus on the topic, yeah?

Ignore this, I was being off topic.

Welp, this is awesome. I'm a big fan of the Stirland Mud texture paint, been using it a lot lately because of Star Wars Imperial Assault miniatures so more and better texture paints is damn good news

What's the difference in the thickness ? Of the similar texture paint?

Microbeads!

For feths sake!

I am not happy about that.

What do they start adding in next time, Fluoride?