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The early books are mostly (all?) based on the comics.

I think there was the original comic, which was followed by some books, and then more comics.

which books preceded comics?

 Manchu wrote:
which books preceded comics?

I don't know XD

Pulling from memory. I think there's only like four books? There's a lot more comics and they keep making new ones of those.

All I know for sure is that the franchise started with a great comic. Desert planet. Weird cow things XD

There are like ... nine? Aliens books published by Dark Horse. And them there are Predator novels. Then there are Aliens v Predator novels. All the ones I have read ... something like 15 or 16 ... are based on Dark Horse comics. The newer novels (published by Titan rather than Dark Horse) are not based on comics.

So David is a synthetic along to help the colonists like Bishop. Interesting. Any excuse for a good Fassbender role.

Well, you gotta copy what worked in the past, right? It's basically the golden rule in movies lately.

 Frazzled wrote:
So David is a synthetic along to help the colonists like Bishop. Interesting. Any excuse for a good Fassbender role.

I mean, it is a staple of ALL Weyland-Yutani vessels.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
So David is a synthetic along to help the colonists like Bishop. Interesting. Any excuse for a good Fassbender role.

I mean, it is a staple of ALL Weyland-Yutani vessels.

Well, synthetics seem to have a pretty shaky reputation in the Aliens universe lol. We'll see if this "David" model ends up performing any experiments on the crew for this one lol.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:
So David is a synthetic along to help the colonists like Bishop. Interesting. Any excuse for a good Fassbender role.

I mean, it is a staple of ALL Weyland-Yutani vessels.

Well, synthetics seem to have a pretty shaky reputation in the Aliens universe lol. We'll see if this "David" model ends up performing any experiments on the crew for this one lol.

Bishop explained about Ash being an old, 'twitchy' model and he himself did absolutely nothing wrong. Call in Resserection did nothing wrong.

David seemed to have the same problems Ash did, and coming in before Ash, would be explained by Bishops mention of earlier models.

Not sure if the new Alien game (Ripley's daughter) counts as canon, but in that one, they're all crazy!

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Not sure if the new Alien game (Ripley's daughter) counts as canon, but in that one, they're all crazy!

It is canon, and the Working Joes in that game are a far more simpler type of Andriod which is controlled by Apollo.

Also, they aren't all crazy until later on, as long as you obey protocol they'll leave you alone. It's only once they get the kill order that they all go Gaga.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Not sure if the new Alien game (Ripley's daughter) counts as canon, but in that one, they're all crazy!

They are also produced by Seegson, rather than WY, and are inferior tech.

 -Loki- wrote:
he himself did absolutely nothing wrong. Call in Resserection did nothing wrong.

but then how did that egg get on the sulaco ...

I think Alien 3 and Resurrection has been retconned for the new Ripley movie.

 -Loki- wrote:
David seemed to have the same problems Ash did, and coming in before Ash, would be explained by Bishops mention of earlier models.

I think David in Prometheus wasn't so much as twitchy, as he was acting under poorly designed rules... Like, if he was given code to be scientific and always experiment, then his infecting the Dr. through the drink was a perfectly "normal" means of his programming. As no one had set foot on the planet before, David, Mr. Weyland, and Ms. Vickers had no way of knowing what was down there, and therefore David shouldn't have had the same conflicting order as Ash, to ensure a "sample" being brought back.


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 Manchu wrote:

 -Loki- wrote:
he himself did absolutely nothing wrong. Call in Resserection did nothing wrong.

but then how did that egg get on the sulaco ...

Because the Queen got onto the drop ship, which made it up to the Sulaco?

But the Queen did not have time to begin a hive and develop a new egg sac on the Sulaco, so something else must have carried it on.

I'm fairly certain it's covered in the DLC for Alien Colonial Marines.

But no one knows because no one has ever been able to complete it without rage quitting.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
But the Queen did not have time to begin a hive and develop a new egg sac on the Sulaco, so something else must have carried it on.

Lol, she probably have one egg left, like that last bit of poo that desperately hangs on

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
But the Queen did not have time to begin a hive and develop a new egg sac on the Sulaco, so something else must have carried it on.

Lol, she probably have one egg left, like that last bit of poo that desperately hangs on

Cling-ons are a different franchise

Supposedly a face-hugger (not a whole egg) had gotten aboard the dropship when the Queen hitched a lift. It presumably scurries off and hides during the power-loader/Queen fistfight (and subsequent airlock door opening). Of course, we never see any signs of this in Aliens itself, because it was never supposed to have a third movie follow on after it.

But some studios just can't leave well enough alone...

We see a hatched egg in Alien 3.

 Manchu wrote:
We see a hatched egg in Alien 3.

Exactly. It spawns a hugger which then burns through Ripley's cryo-tube and impregnates her.

Oh, er, spoilers...

 Nostromodamus wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
We see a hatched egg in Alien 3.

Exactly. It spawns a hugger which then burns through Ripley's cryo-tube and impregnates her.

Oh, er, spoilers...

It's probably the most hated scene in the entire series.

The first time I showed it to my girlfriend and her brother (straight after aliens, due to a binge watching session.) we had to have a break for tea because it annoyed them both so much.

 welshhoppo wrote:
we had to have a break for tea

a thoroughly British crisis

It’s been a while since I saw it, but IIRC Aliens 3 wasn’t a bad movie but it was an atrocious sequel.

As a standalone, with no prior history, it holds together well. Closer to the first movie then the second.

But the set up is hot garbage, and pisses all over the ending on the second movie.

I personally hope Covenant does well, I really want another good Alien movie after the first two, but from what I've heard from my more cynical but realistic friends, it may end up being the worst of both worlds: a convoluted, hard to follow plot like Prometheus, but a very predictable "dumb people die" gorn style movie. Basically Xenomorph fanservice.

Also, I'm fairly torn, but overall rather cautious about this whole "neomorph" thing. I'm not sure a GSC crossover is what we need

As long as we don't get another "newborn" I'll be happy...

 Nevelon wrote:
It’s been a while since I saw it, but IIRC Aliens 3 wasn’t a bad movie but it was an atrocious sequel.

As a standalone, with no prior history, it holds together well. Closer to the first movie then the second.

But the set up is hot garbage, and pisses all over the ending on the second movie.

IMO it was pretty legitimately bad on it's own merits. It would be hard to find any movie that didn't suck after that long in development hell.

So far as Covenant goes - Aliens, Predator and Terminator have spawned 15 movies of which 5 were good. That's pretty bad odds even before I saw James Franco and Danny McBride.

Of course I'll go see it, though.

Alien3 was kind of decent on its own merits. Interesting set up, decent acting (and actors) and quite a few good twists and turns.

It just wasn't all that scary, the alien didn't look at good because they kept cgi in the thing, it doesn't flow from the prequel and it is kind of cliched.

I also kind of enjoy alien resurrection, I just feel like it could have used better direction.

And the newborn sucked, how was that an improvement over the old method?