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 whembly wrote:
I think I'm in the minority here... I loved Prometheus.

I think people were hoping for more Xenomorphs and more about that ancient race... rather than some 'umies stupidly mucking around things they have no idea about.

The "extraction procedure" in Noomi scene was wicked.

Aliens 2 was my fav, followed by 3 and 1.

Nah - I liked Prometheus too. This doesn't look like Prometheus 2 though. This looks like crap.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 whembly wrote:
I think I'm in the minority here... I loved Prometheus.

I think people were hoping for more Xenomorphs and more about that ancient race... rather than some 'umies stupidly mucking around things they have no idea about.

The "extraction procedure" in Noomi scene was wicked.

Aliens 2 was my fav, followed by 3 and 1.

Nah - I liked Prometheus too. This doesn't look like Prometheus 2 though. This looks like crap.

Hey... the trailers on Premetheus looked ridiculously awesome... which tanked.

Maybe they got it right this time as evidenced by this crappy trailer?

I can only hope!

 whembly wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 whembly wrote:
I think I'm in the minority here... I loved Prometheus.

I think people were hoping for more Xenomorphs and more about that ancient race... rather than some 'umies stupidly mucking around things they have no idea about.

The "extraction procedure" in Noomi scene was wicked.

Aliens 2 was my fav, followed by 3 and 1.

Nah - I liked Prometheus too. This doesn't look like Prometheus 2 though. This looks like crap.

Hey... the trailers on Premetheus looked ridiculously awesome... which tanked.

Maybe they got it right this time as evidenced by this crappy trailer?

I can only hope!

I don't see how this could actually be good because is the same dang movie. I'll probably see it. Most likely it will suck.

Looks like The Force Awakens for Alien to me.

This looks like a rehash of Prometheus, which wasn't very good to begin with. It is possible they've improved on the source material, but given Ridley Scott's track record of late, I doubt it. Gonna skip this one until I hear something positive from reliable sources.

Thoughts and questions....
The spores transforming the host reminds me of an old Alien3 script that may still be floating about the web somewhere.
Looks like there are face huggers as well as spores, so probably at least two different types of Xenomorph.
David/Walter in the white room looking out on the planet makes me think of Flynns rooms in the last Tron film. Could it be some kind of cyberspace construct where the two androids interact?
Kinda related, does David have a new body now or is he still just a head? Could he take over or share Walters body?
They find some dog tags in Xenomorph goo, are they Shaws?
The planet looks a lot like the early Earth from the start of Prometheus. A living world that's been Xenoformed is probably not a place you want to land

Feels like a normal alien movie. Not sure if I'll see it in theatres or not. Maybe I'll try and make it through prometheus one more time. Because It's been 3 tries where I've lost interest or fallen asleep.

I didn't mind Prometheus - until Meredith couldn't figure out to dodge either left or right!

 Hulksmash wrote:
Feels like a normal alien movie. Not sure if I'll see it in theatres or not. Maybe I'll try and make it through prometheus one more time. Because It's been 3 tries where I've lost interest or fallen asleep.

Sounds like me with Blade Runner. That movie puts me out like a light every time. I must be the only nerd not to have seen it but it's not through lack of trying

I'm the same way about Blade Runner. I get it. I like the story. I know what makes it so cool.. but I just can't sit through it, it bores me nearly to tears. It's like reading the Lord of the Rings for the first time... cool story, but math textbooks are more exciting.

If you thought the books were boring, try watching the movies.

They put me to sleep faster than NyQuil. I've tried to watch them 3 times, to see what friends were raving about - but fell asleep at the same points each time. About an hour in, I doze off.

Prometheus with the deleted scenes makes the movie make much more sense. The editing may have been done for pacing/runtime, but it butchered the flow.

Agree about the Prometheus deleted scenes. After watching at the cinema initially, then the home version about 6 months later it felt like something was missing. Then I saw some of the deleted scenes and saw that was the case!

The scene in particular where the Engineer first wakes up - the cinema version had David speaking in an ancient tongue, which the alien considers for a moment before grimmacing and ripping the android's head off. The home version skipped the communication part, and it gave the engineer the feel of a mindless murderer, rather than an intelligent being feeling a deep intellectual dislike for what it was hearing and seeing (which I believe was what they were trying to convey)

In any case, new Alien film, it's all re-treading old ground now isn't it and we'll never feel the shock again that cinemas in 1979 felt, but no doubt it will have good production values and hopefully a few good 'yuk' or jump from seat moments!

They need to just stop.

Just give me more Alien vs Predator movies. (But better this time)

 SickSix wrote:
They need to just stop.

Just give me more Alien vs Predator movies. (But better this time)

I'd like this.

How hard is it to make a good Alien vs Predator movie? Not that hard. Just take the opening of premise of Aliens, add some Predator halfway through and let it play out with no contrivance. There we go solved

It seems it is fairly hard to make a good AvP film since there have only been two so far and both were fairly awful movies. It should be easy but apparently it isn't.

 Ahtman wrote:
It seems it is fairly hard to make a good AvP film since there have only been two so far and both were fairly awful movies. It should be easy but apparently it isn't.

I feel like the games pulled it off better than the movies, it should have always been set in the future...not present day...because then it becomes a cliche monster movie. The whole entire idea itself is kind of cheesy though, and I personally have no desire to ever see another AvP film. There is no plot or point to it, they are just carelessly jammed into the movie for the sake of violent action fight scenes.

I forgot about the games. I only played the first one on PC but it was awesome, especially through headphones with all the lights out.

And yeah, I don't really feel the need for a crossover either.

The original* premise of Yautja using Xenomorphs as a prey species in their young's right of passage is fine with me, it's just not translated to screen very well, or not even attempted in some cases.


*As in the books.

The first AvP was fine I thought. The second one was just weird survival horror that changed so many of the "rules" of the aliens just to make the movie work.

Looks like it could be fun, but another member was right: this looks like a rehash of Aliens. At least Prometheus tried some new ideas, even if it sucked.

I'll probably watch this on Red Box, but not expecting much.

 AduroT wrote:
The first AvP was fine I thought. The second one was just weird survival horror that changed so many of the "rules" of the aliens just to make the movie work.

Enjoyed both AVP films - not as good as the first Graphic novel but good. Predator films are all great.

Prometheus was a major major disappointment - really enjoyed David as someone disappointed in his creators but he was the only character that actually seemed interesting.

Charlize Theron as Meredith Vickers was completely and utterly wasted in favour of a bunch of laughably stupid "explorers" and without a decent security (kill team) detachment to keep an eye on them and secure the site or indeed a corporation frigate trailing them as apparently the rusk bucket they travel in has no weapons. She makes two decisions in the whole film and they get ignored.

Disappointed Elizabeth still seems to be around - hell she was annoying.

The new trailer looks ok, nothing special - if it is just a rehash of Aliens that could however be good . Sadly just looks like another bunch of idiots in a crap ship find the Aliens and die.

I though AVP1 was mediocre but not bad. Just lowest common denominator all around. At the end of the day the whole point of the crossover is to see two bad ass alien monsters go head to head and AVP1 just didn't have enough of that. Too much time was spent on idiot human characters we knew from the get go were doomed to die. The original comic book would also have made a good movie adaptation and that's what they seemed to go with in the film, but they completely changed the setting and major plot points and it didn't work.

AVPR I don't think was as bad as some people make it out to be. It gave me what I really wanted (predator vs alien) but that film also spent too much time on even dumber humans, and the screen was always (always) too damn dark. You could barely see half the action because the the entire film was filmed with a gamma somewhere in the range of "almost zero."

I almost feel like a good director and writer team could make a really good AVP film with no focus on humans at all. Just focus on the Alien and the Predator and use rudimentary sounds, body language, and atmosphere to communicate their inner thoughts. It could be a really interesting movie but it's way to adventurous and risky a venture for any studio to undertake. To me the only humans who aren't mere cannon fodder in this scenario are Colonial Marines (and most of them will still be cannon fodder), and they were completely absent from both films.

The lack of movies about the Colonial Marines is a whole other crime against cinema.

Now there's a spinoff thought: Colonial Marines: The Battle of Bacinus Maximus!

 Frazzled wrote:
Now there's a spinoff thought: Colonial Marines: The Battle of Bacinus Maximus!

I just want to see all these weapons Hudson was bragging about that they never actually used XD




I'm especially curious about this "sharp stick" The Predators have those they seemed effective for Alien killing

 Ouze wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

Jehan-reznor wrote:I was expecting a sequel to Prometheus, this just looks like a remake - relaunch of the original movie

It looks to me like they're using the sequel to do a franchise relaunch, what with the premise of the sequel basically being identical to the original film.

Sequels to prequels that segue back into the original franchise - so hot right now.

The correct term is Interquel.

But I agree, soft reboots are on the up dramatically in the past few years. You get to make a remake without actually making a remake.

 Alpharius wrote:
I didn't mind Prometheus - until Meredith couldn't figure out to dodge either left or right!

I had that too, the one time in a movie were i was loud and went "really?"

So an official prologue was released yesterday or so... I know it doesn't exactly show much but, it's something and it looks like we may have an interesting film from multiple fronts.

Well ... I guess it will make more sense when this bunch does dumbass stuff. They're just colonists, after all.

Right?

 Manchu wrote:
Well ... I guess it will make more sense when this bunch does dumbass stuff. They're just colonists, after all.

Right?

Dumb ass colonists...

 Nostromodamus wrote:
The original* premise of Yautja using Xenomorphs as a prey species in their young's right of passage is fine with me, it's just not translated to screen very well, or not even attempted in some cases.


*As in the books.

That was also in the old dark horse comics stories.