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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/16 12:49:32
Subject: Re:Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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hordrak wrote:No matter who is correct, this issue will come up only at very large games and they are rather rare, so the SW will most likely run the same 2-3HQs, as the other legions.
Changing the topic a little bit - what's the general opinion on frost weapons? good choice or overpriced?
Sword is just outright worse than the Claw.
Axe looks cool until you realise it costs the same as a power fist or more and is outright worse.
Claw is okay if you wanted lighting claws .... Otherwise it's the best option to swap to on Varagyr to give them a bonus Attack.
Great frost blade is not bad it's a death Guard scythe with Master crafted but limited on who can take it. While it costs a lot I think it may be okay just to try kill some 2+ saves before unwieldy weapons strike.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/16 20:26:12
Subject: Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Varagyr with Great frost blades seem pretty awesome. Is a squad of 5 or 6 crazy expensive? I am getting the impression they are a lot of points from interweb chatter.
Also, are full squads of Grey Slayers with bolters too expensive compared to a similarly kitted 20 man tac squad with extra CCWs?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/16 20:29:33
Subject: Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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More Dakka wrote:Varagyr with Great frost blades seem pretty awesome. Is a squad of 5 or 6 crazy expensive? I am getting the impression they are a lot of points from interweb chatter.
Varagyr can't take Great Frost Blades
Also, are full squads of Grey Slayers with bolters too expensive compared to a similarly kitted 20 man tac squad with extra CCWs?
They cost the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/16 21:31:11
Subject: Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Oh they can't just choose any frost-weapon from the list. that's OK I guess.
At least Grey Slayers are in line then, been really enjoying 20 man blobs of marines. My IW don't take Apothacaries anyways, so not real issue there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/16 21:35:40
Subject: Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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They only get the choice of the Axe, Blade and Claw.
You can have an Apoth in the Slayers would work if you just fire a pistol or Assault weapon. SoL on running and charging with him there though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/16 21:57:53
Subject: Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Yeah, thinking just running Grey Slayers alone seems fine, being able to run and charge, gaining +1WS and +1 run move and FC AND re-roll charges once per game with the Bloodied Claw ROW is pretty nasty.
Then they have counter attack if you want to act like Grey Hunters to boot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/16 22:03:21
Subject: Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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And the +1 to run from their LA rules effectively candles out the -1 from Shooting/Running then charging.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/18 07:19:24
Subject: Re:Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Flashy Flashgitz
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One thing that might work (have to check that). The apothecary joins the unit, stays in the middle, but neither makes running moves nor shoots. The slayers themselves may run/shoot, but since the apothecary has neither run nor shot the unit may still charge after performing thouse actions. It all depends on wether running is an action that a unit, or a model makes, so weather the apothecary had to run with the slayers or may not run.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 09:59:28
Subject: Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Entire unit runs. Even if he stays stlll he counts as running
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 18:54:03
Subject: Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Flashy Flashgitz
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tneva82 wrote:Entire unit runs. Even if he stays stlll he counts as running
Damn. Then it only works when shooting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 22:11:06
Subject: Re:Thoughts on the Vlka Fenryka.
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Played a large 3v2 last night with a couple guys running their first games with 1kSons/Space Wolves.
There were 60 grey slayers on the table (one of those groups was in a Spartan), and it was ridiculous how awesome they did. One squad by itself wiped out half of a guy's army. Burying power fists and weapons in there is ridiculously effective. Makes me hope they change my poor Sons of Horus Reaver squads into something like this.
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