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Gimgamgoo wrote: I think they look great. I'm just worried about the scale creep. GW skellies fit on 20mm squares. These are now onto what appears to be 32mm rounds. Are these going to look like Ogre skellies compared to the older ones?
Honestly, they look like they're on 25s not 32s.
He doesn't look all that much bigger than the current plastic Wight King, who fits pretty close to that on a 25mm.
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Gimgamgoo wrote: I think they look great. I'm just worried about the scale creep. GW skellies fit on 20mm squares. These are now onto what appears to be 32mm rounds. Are these going to look like Ogre skellies compared to the older ones?
We know loads of you Death fans have been patient as the grave waiting for new miniatures since the Age of Sigmar began, and these guys don’t disappoint. The new models match the scale of our current Deathrattle range, and they’ll look just as great striding to battle in those vast legions as they will slaying interlopers in the cursed city of Shadespire.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Alpharius wrote: While I too also prefer the Mierce versions, these will have the advantage of being plastic, and most likely be very nicely priced too.
Of course, they'll probably also be more in line with GW's bonkers heroic scale XXmm too, but...
I dunno if you've seen the more recent Skelly boxed set but I bitz ordered a few off of the bay of E. Comparing them to heroquest and older edition skeletons, it's like reverse scale creep. The newer ones (to my eye) are more believable and legitimately look like they could fit inside a body. This also is a pain in the butt though because plastic that thin isn't exactly the sternest material.
You'd be surprised how often that's popped up for this release.
Worst offender is a reddit guy saying if they wanted people to know the game existed, as he himself didn't know about it, they should've called it Mordheim 2.0.
As for next faction, It's gotta be a Destruction warband. Grots are likely but who knows, could be a single Ogor who raided a Ironweld caravan.
Top notch Skellies. I'm a big fan of more characterful Undead and these definitely fit the bill. Unless the price is ludicrous that set is a definite buy.
These look really good. The more I see about the game the more interested I become. I'm glad they look like classic dungeon fantasy skeletons, nothing too crazy. They definitely have the warhammer flair but they still look worn and weathered with their armor and stuff. Plus they're plastic, which is always good.
I wonder how many other little boxes they have planned for this game. I certainly wouldn't mind some reimagined AoS Seraphon or an Elven faction. I feel like initially...one chaos faction will do for now. And GW has a chance to do little niche 4-6 max boxes of more unique models.
However, I prefer my undead less animated, more like shambling puppets than in full on comic book poses. I'm also guessing that since they will likely come with cards or something for the game that they will be pretty pricey to get. Offhand I'd guess that they will cost somewhere around $40 for the 7 of them (pure conjecture-I just take what I'd be happy to pay, double it, and that is usually pretty close to GW retail).
Johnny The Lictor wrote: Normal skellies have been sold out. Does this mean that they're getting replaced by these?
On a similar note, the Blood Knights no longer appear under Grand Alliance Death when filtering by "All Armies of Death" or by "Soulblight". They still appear via the search function, though, and are still available to order. You know, if you want to pay $100 for finecast.
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
Johnny The Lictor wrote: Normal skellies have been sold out. Does this mean that they're getting replaced by these?
On a similar note, the Blood Knights no longer appear under Grand Alliance Death when filtering by "All Armies of Death" or by "Soulblight". They still appear via the search function, though, and are still available to order. You know, if you want to pay $100 for finecast.
The filters are very wonky.
There was a time when the Tau Empire Codex didn't appear under the Tau Empire heading.
I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
No. Shadespire won't be released until later this year.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
We know very little about the game at this point. At this point it's been more teased than previewed. We know that it's a skirmish level game designed with competitive play in mind, and that's really about all we know. Expect more as we get closer to Q3 or Q4 probably.
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
We know very little about the game at this point. At this point it's been more teased than previewed. We know that it's a skirmish level game designed with competitive play in mind, and that's really about all we know. Expect more as we get closer to Q3 or Q4 probably.
Ghaz wrote:
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
No. Shadespire won't be released until later this year.
Thank you both.. so.. the.. skeletons are an "upcoming" expansion.. for.. the unreleased game? It makes me wonder if the core game is going to be the arena (like Bloodbowl) and the factions are basically like BB teams.. actually that makes a lot of sense..
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
We know very little about the game at this point. At this point it's been more teased than previewed. We know that it's a skirmish level game designed with competitive play in mind, and that's really about all we know. Expect more as we get closer to Q3 or Q4 probably.
Ghaz wrote:
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
No. Shadespire won't be released until later this year.
Thank you both.. so.. the.. skeletons are an "upcoming" expansion.. for.. the unreleased game? It makes me wonder if the core game is going to be the arena (like Bloodbowl) and the factions are basically like BB teams.. actually that makes a lot of sense..
That's probably not a bad comparison.
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
We know very little about the game at this point. At this point it's been more teased than previewed. We know that it's a skirmish level game designed with competitive play in mind, and that's really about all we know. Expect more as we get closer to Q3 or Q4 probably.
Ghaz wrote:
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
No. Shadespire won't be released until later this year.
Thank you both.. so.. the.. skeletons are an "upcoming" expansion.. for.. the unreleased game? It makes me wonder if the core game is going to be the arena (like Bloodbowl) and the factions are basically like BB teams.. actually that makes a lot of sense..
Warbands. It is supposed to be like AOSified Mordhiem. Personally, I still can not get into the feel of this new "AOS" version. It is hit or miss on the figures, and the more they pull out of their hindquarters, the farther away from being able to grasp the concept escapes me. ( sorry in advance. Just my opinion.)
I would like to honestly like it, but the more I see, the less inclined I am to get into the game. The prices are over the top for the product, the setting is vapid, and the honest level of my commitment to something that was supposedly destroy the world, the more GW is inching closer and closer to admitting that they !@#$ up and overstepped themselves.
You destroyed the "Universe", why try so hard to reconstruct it in oversized models, when I was playing the game for over such and such a time, and they arbitrarily retconned the whole reason for me to get into the game.... It's as if someone smashes your Porsche, and gives you a Volvo.
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Grot 6 wrote: It is supposed to be like AOSified Mordhiem.
From everything we've seen, it's nothing like Mordheim.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Grot 6, I really feel like that was an extremely misguided rant. None of the points you argued are objectively true - they have taken AoS in its own direction, and continue to do so. I understand this is your opinion, but its my opinion that you are being unfair.
Grot 6 wrote: It is supposed to be like AOSified Mordhiem.
From everything we've seen, it's nothing like Mordheim.
Citation, please.
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Neronoxx wrote: Grot 6, I really feel like that was an extremely misguided rant. None of the points you argued are objectively true - they have taken AoS in its own direction, and continue to do so. I understand this is your opinion, but its my opinion that you are being unfair.
You missed that part about my opinion, I see.
If you like it, I don't need to get into it with you, I just have a hard time getting into the setting and the feel of the games, sorry if I have been playing a game that was arbitrarily retconned, and I can't get into the replacement. My opinion is mine. It is the correct one, and yours is wrong.
I'll stick with my opinion until I can see otherwise, and find something I like. I have a little bit of an interest in the pitfight game, but I was surprised that there were not more then just Khorne fighters. Is there any talk about getting these undead into that pitfight game?
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At Games Workshop, we believe that how you behave does matter. We believe this so strongly that we have written it down in the Games Workshop Book. There is a section in the book where we talk about the values we expect all staff to demonstrate in their working lives. These values are Lawyers, Guns and Money.
kronk wrote: So I played 1 round/turn of shadowspire after the event last night. I worked all day, drove through Heavy traffic to get my buddy from O'Hare,, and had not eaten for 10 hours at the point, so I was tired and hungry. I was not terribly focused on the game. Just so you know where I was.
The minis were decent for push pin style minis (starter box minis). They said in the announcement there would be more factions and add-ons; they were not sure about more boards. There were apparently a lot more board options in the box.
You get 4 activations per turn. You drew 5 action/upgrade cards and 3 victory cards. The mechanics were I activate a dude, I can play a card to buff it or weaken yours, and you can retaliate with a card. I can then move, attack something next to me, or charge something (move and attack). If you charge, then that mini is done. If you move or hit, you can keep using that dude. Some have mnore attacks, some have more health, some do more damage, and some move further. There were other rules that we did 't bother with in the demo, too. There were also victory cards. For example, after the round, if you had a dude stand on an objective, you got a coin. You could use that to buy an upgrade card like +1 defense or heal 3 wounds or something.
There were stat cards for your dudes. Normal mode is how you start. If you "power up" and go "super Scion" or whatever the nerd behind me kept saying, you flipped the card. The other side had more attacks or sounds or some other benefits. I was unclear on that mechanic. Expansions could have more factions, cards, boards, and other stuff.
All in all, it looked like a brutal game. The guys next to us killed at least 2 of each other's dudes. Only 1 of my guys died in the round.
Also, guess who my instructor was!
Like he said, nothing like Mordheim.
Grot 6 wrote: Is there any talk about getting these undead into that pitfight game?
If by 'any talk' you mean this thread, that is dedicated entirely to the preview of the skeleton warband to play in 'that pitfight game', then yes, there is some talk.
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Very cool, they remind me alot of the conversions I've done adding GW skulls and skelly weapons to KoW skelly bodies.
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GW skeleton warriors are Sold Out. Maybe they are planning on repacking it, as they did with Dryads/Chaos Warriors/other things? Maybe more VC releases coming soon?
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
We know very little about the game at this point. At this point it's been more teased than previewed. We know that it's a skirmish level game designed with competitive play in mind, and that's really about all we know. Expect more as we get closer to Q3 or Q4 probably.
Ghaz wrote:
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
No. Shadespire won't be released until later this year.
Thank you both.. so.. the.. skeletons are an "upcoming" expansion.. for.. the unreleased game? It makes me wonder if the core game is going to be the arena (like Bloodbowl) and the factions are basically like BB teams.. actually that makes a lot of sense..
Warbands. It is supposed to be like AOSified Mordhiem. Personally, I still can not get into the feel of this new "AOS" version. It is hit or miss on the figures, and the more they pull out of their hindquarters, the farther away from being able to grasp the concept escapes me. ( sorry in advance. Just my opinion.)
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Uhm... it's a hex-based arena combat game using cards... it has nothing in common with Mordheim.
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
We know very little about the game at this point. At this point it's been more teased than previewed. We know that it's a skirmish level game designed with competitive play in mind, and that's really about all we know. Expect more as we get closer to Q3 or Q4 probably.
Ghaz wrote:
MLaw wrote: I'm thoroughly confused. Is the game this expansion is for out or what's the deal? I keep trying to find out more about the base game but am not having much luck.
No. Shadespire won't be released until later this year.
Thank you both.. so.. the.. skeletons are an "upcoming" expansion.. for.. the unreleased game? It makes me wonder if the core game is going to be the arena (like Bloodbowl) and the factions are basically like BB teams.. actually that makes a lot of sense..
Warbands. It is supposed to be like AOSified Mordhiem. Personally, I still can not get into the feel of this new "AOS" version. It is hit or miss on the figures, and the more they pull out of their hindquarters, the farther away from being able to grasp the concept escapes me. ( sorry in advance. Just my opinion.)
I would like to honestly like it, but the more I see, the less inclined I am to get into the game. The prices are over the top for the product, the setting is vapid, and the honest level of my commitment to something that was supposedly destroy the world, the more GW is inching closer and closer to admitting that they !@#$ up and overstepped themselves.
You destroyed the "Universe", why try so hard to reconstruct it in oversized models, when I was playing the game for over such and such a time, and they arbitrarily retconned the whole reason for me to get into the game.... It's as if someone smashes your Porsche, and gives you a Volvo.
Because this isn't mordheim. Mordheim was a campaign system for warbands. This is meant for tournaments and is GW's take on X-Wing.
Aside from that your comment almost read like an old man ranting pointlessly considering it bears no relationship with ANY of the actual discussions at hand. Regardless of your opinion.
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