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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I wonder how these would look with the Corvus "Beakie" helmets. The FAQs did say that the head and shoulderpads were one of the few things that are still cross-compatible without modifications.

might have issues due to the mk 8 style colar on the armor.

BTW aren't the helmets basicly just MK4 helmets?

Don't really care one way or another as they are 100% utterly irrelevant for us. Too big to use as tacticals etc as they would look silly among hundreds of old ones. For new ones fluff don't fit to our games at all so we would have to create new fluff for super marines and frankly they aren't interesting enough to go through of coming up with new rules and fluff for them.

So we ignore them. Too much trouble for what they provide.

My complaint is that the inevitable addition of more nu-marines will make it even less likely that older kits in need of updates (Ork/Chaos/Sisters/Whathaveyou) will finally get what they need. Instead, GW has found yet another way to throw more marines at us.

Joy.

Its ok model wise,
Fluff wise its a bit meh.

Its a commercial decision by GW to restart their Marine line - I would have prefered that they explored sales elsewhere in their product portfolio but they are very single minded - even now.

Plasitc Aspect Warriors, Sisters, Guard regiments other than Cadia, Tau Auxlieries - all had loads of potential but instead we get a slightly different marine with a slightly different gun.

 Mr Morden wrote:
Its ok model wise,
Fluff wise its a bit meh.

Its a commercial decision by GW to restart their Marine line - I would have prefered that they explored sales elsewhere in their product portfolio but they are very single minded - even now.

Plasitc Aspect Warriors, Sisters, Guard regiments other than Cadia, Tau Auxlieries - all had loads of potential but instead we get a slightly different marine with a slightly different gun.

Malibu Stacey! Now with a new hat!

It should be GW new motto at this point. If they really needed more super-warrior, couldn't they just make more Custodes since they released them recently?

I don't really see an option for...

I don't like the models, I don't like the fluff

2 of the options seem to both say "I don't care"

 Talamare wrote:
I don't really see an option for...

I don't like the models, I don't like the fluff

2 of the options seem to both say "I don't care"

While I disagree with Talamare, he is correct that there should just be a "No" answer given that there's also a "Yes" answer.

I hope they get all the options that old marines get, and I'll slowly just brush the old 1 wound marines under the rug and be like "What are you talking about.. they always had 2 wounds, 2 attacks and 30" bolters!"

Their new stats fit what marines should look like based on the fluff.

Models look great, not sure when I'll start getting them though. Right now all my guys are semi-true scaled with green stuff to add height and bulk between their joints. I'll have to stack the new guys up to my current ones to see how different they are.

Models are OK I suppose. Of all the new things they could have released though, it's really hard to get excited about another damn space marine variant.

 Insectum7 wrote:
"Legs wide" is the codex approved method of advancing. It offers a lower profile to the enemy, and a steadier firing position for the holy bolter.

Or do you want to hold your head high and proud in a firefight?

If that's the case the enemies of the Imperium should really invest in a troupe of Kazatsky dancers armed with power-boots.

 More Dakka wrote:
I hope they get all the options that old marines get, and I'll slowly just brush the old 1 wound marines under the rug and be like "What are you talking about.. they always had 2 wounds, 2 attacks and 30" bolters!"

I think that's the general idea behind this. I fully expect there to be only Primaris marines (even if merely represented with people's old models) sometime in the next couple of years.

Honestly the fluff is pretty good... of course a revived Primarch would want some super reinforcements upon discovering the abysmal state of his former empire; 10k years of "regular" space marines were obviously inadequate.

It's just - from a gaming, modeling/hobbying and existing armies / piles of plastic perspective - it's sooo far from what I want to get involved in right now.

We all asked for a balanced game - Nobody asked for new marines... given historical precedence it makes me weary that GW is actually listening, but I'm still hopeful.

I like the new marines well enough, but as a Space Wolves player, I don't see myself fielding them anytime soon.

I've always viewed the SW chapter as being one of the more reclusive and distrusting ones (right up there with DA). Unless fluff has changed significantly since I last played (10 years ago or so), I don't see many scenarios where the Primaris Marines would be welcomed into The Fang.

New models look good, but the fluff.... Girlyman getting a new legion of bespoke Numarines and heading off with normal chapters tagging along, okay.

New chapters of them, old chapters being given them to make up numbers again despite the lack of sense it makes for armies like Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Blood Angels, etc.. Meh, lazy.

I like the miniatures for the most part, the legs are little bit sigmariney and the bolt rifle in place of the iconic bolter doesn't feel quite right, but they look great otherwise and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the community converts and paints them. Though I am really curious as to what exact size they are, especially in comparison to "true scale" conversions made from terminator bits.

 Praxus wrote:
I've always viewed the SW chapter as being one of the more reclusive and distrusting ones (right up there with DA). Unless fluff has changed significantly since I last played (10 years ago or so), I don't see many scenarios where the Primaris Marines would be welcomed into The Fang.

This is a total aside, but I've always thought of the Space Wolves setup as more of an Imperial allied fiefdom, seems unusual that the Imperium of all places would consider them super loyal when they don't play by the rules

There's potential for the Primaris marines to be something a bit more unusual for chapters like Space Wolves or Blood Angles, like maybe they'd become super-Wulfen or something. Quote from the Warhammer Community site below for context.

some dissenting voices worry how this new type of warrior will react with the known genetic quirks and flaws of some of the more unusual Chapters

 nurgle5 wrote:
I like the miniatures for the most part, the legs are little bit sigmariney and the bolt rifle in place of the iconic bolter doesn't feel quite right, but they look great otherwise and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the community converts and paints them. Though I am really curious as to what exact size they are, especially in comparison to "true scale" conversions made from terminator bits.

 Praxus wrote:
I've always viewed the SW chapter as being one of the more reclusive and distrusting ones (right up there with DA). Unless fluff has changed significantly since I last played (10 years ago or so), I don't see many scenarios where the Primaris Marines would be welcomed into The Fang.

This is a total aside, but I've always thought of the Space Wolves setup as more of an Imperial allied fiefdom, seems unusual that the Imperium of all places would consider them super loyal when they don't play by the rules

There's potential for the Primaris marines to be something a bit more unusual for chapters like Space Wolves or Blood Angles, like maybe they'd become super-Wulfen or something. Quote from the Warhammer Community site below for context.

some dissenting voices worry how this new type of warrior will react with the known genetic quirks and flaws of some of the more unusual Chapters

SW are sort of in a "beggars can't be choosers" situation though. They'll have to welcome Primaris Marines out of necessity. Then they will see that the Primaris are actually huge dog-lovers and they'll totally bond over that.

 nurgle5 wrote:
I like the miniatures for the most part, the legs are little bit sigmariney and the bolt rifle in place of the iconic bolter doesn't feel quite right, but they look great otherwise and I'm really looking forward to seeing how the community converts and paints them. Though I am really curious as to what exact size they are, especially in comparison to "true scale" conversions made from terminator bits.

 Praxus wrote:
I've always viewed the SW chapter as being one of the more reclusive and distrusting ones (right up there with DA). Unless fluff has changed significantly since I last played (10 years ago or so), I don't see many scenarios where the Primaris Marines would be welcomed into The Fang.

This is a total aside, but I've always thought of the Space Wolves setup as more of an Imperial allied fiefdom, seems unusual that the Imperium of all places would consider them super loyal when they don't play by the rules

There's potential for the Primaris marines to be something a bit more unusual for chapters like Space Wolves or Blood Angles, like maybe they'd become super-Wulfen or something. Quote from the Warhammer Community site below for context.

some dissenting voices worry how this new type of warrior will react with the known genetic quirks and flaws of some of the more unusual Chapters

Spacce Wolves have Plot shields nine miles thick - oh God Super Wolfen - likely riding Super Wolves as well I used to love the Space Wolves.....

 Luke_Prowler wrote:
My complaint is that the inevitable addition of more nu-marines will make it even less likely that older kits in need of updates (Ork/Chaos/Sisters/Whathaveyou) will finally get what they need. Instead, GW has found yet another way to throw more marines at us.

Joy.

How in the world does it make it less likely? delayed perhaps but i cant see GW dropping there older lines.

They're marines without the redeeming features of marines.

Mr Morden wrote: Spacce Wolves have Plot shields nine miles thick - oh God Super Wolfen - likely riding Super Wolves as well I used to love the Space Wolves.....

A couple of Wulfen Primaris being herded around by a Wolf Priest like the Ad Mech Kastelan robots could be cool (maybe not the exact rules, but the general principle). If the chapters with messed up gene-seeds are gonna get the Primaris marines they may as well do something interesting with that. In any case Super Wulfen couldn't be any worse than the Santa Sleigh surely!

Purifier wrote:SW are sort of in a "beggars can't be choosers" situation though. They'll have to welcome Primaris Marines out of necessity. Then they will see that the Primaris are actually huge dog-lovers and they'll totally bond over that.

I'd actually completely forgotten about Fenris getting wrecked already...

Nope.

They're a decidedly meh for me.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

 Insectum7 wrote:
"Legs wide" is the codex approved method of advancing. It offers a lower profile to the enemy, and a steadier firing position for the holy bolter.

Or do you want to hold your head high and proud in a firefight?

If that's the case the enemies of the Imperium should really invest in a troupe of Kazatsky dancers armed with power-boots.

Too much flexing at the knee risks exposing thinner plate to the foe, and decreses balance. The codex aproved method is to drop to one knee instead, placing your forward (foot down) leg in front of the back leg for minimum exposure of rear knee (knee down) joint to the enemy.

 thekingofkings wrote:
I dont like the models for 2 reasons.
1) the helmet, there is something about it that just strikes me as "off"

Because it looks like a Necron helmet.

2) I dont appreciate the creep in size of models, at all. the board is still just 6x4 so dont want a bunch of bigger models and bigger bases and these seem to herald just that

I hate the fluff. I find it poorly conceived and just a shill to eventually phase out older models and replace them with new.

Hopefully they'll get so big that Superheavies and GMCs will become normal sized or forced back into Apoc.
Fluff has been going downhill for years, I'll agree with that except AdMech sitting on good stuff and not distributing it to the rest of the imperium is nothing new, they've been doing that since their first mentions Mechanicus believe their work is FAR more important than any life.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:
I dont like the models for 2 reasons.
1) the helmet, there is something about it that just strikes me as "off"

Because it looks like a Necron helmet.

you mean it looks like a skull? truthfully my first thought on seeing it was that it was a MK IV helmet.




thats really my over all impression, it's MK 8 armor, with a MK IV helmet and some reinforcements at weak joints.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:


Because it looks like a Necron helmet.

Necrons wear helmets? I thought that was their skull... and it looks nothing like a foul Necron, if anything it reminds me of a smoother MK IV helm. come on man, the punisher skull bares more similiarity to a damn filthy nercon.

AH I wish 8th was a video game, I can just picture the cutscenes... Marines standing proud on the deck of a ship, ready to serve, their armour painted up in the respective chapters they have been asigned to reinforce.. the huge Ultramarines Banner for 2nd Company, colourful and proud... then cut to a bright mid-day sun, the banner slightly torn up by enemy fire, these huge hulking Marines pouring through the laneways between these great ruined structures, climing up over the ruined imperial guard bunkers and barricades, and charging head first in to the enemy, smashing traitor and xeno alike!

Plus they have RIFLES, I mean come on... and a RAIL SYSTEM!hahahahah okay whatever.

 Ginsu33 wrote:


Plus they have RIFLES, I mean come on... and a RAIL SYSTEM!hahahahah okay whatever.

And racing stripes. They look like god damn mustangs, in a good way.

 Luciferian wrote:

 Ginsu33 wrote:


Plus they have RIFLES, I mean come on... and a RAIL SYSTEM!hahahahah okay whatever.

And racing stripes. They look like god damn mustangs, in a good way.

Did you SEE his eyes shine like that in the photo? MAN I thought I was losing my mind!! Like a hot car on the showroom floor, you swear it winked at you to buy it.... these toys are aweome
AND his carrying a sidearm!!!!c COME ON!!!

Yeah the eye shine freaked me out for a minute.

Space Wolves should be fun in the new storyline, actually. Now the entire Chapter can go 13th company ala Black Crusade campaign, using captured Chaos armor segments as a stopgap for losing the production factories inside the Fang.

 Luciferian wrote:

 Ginsu33 wrote:


Plus they have RIFLES, I mean come on... and a RAIL SYSTEM!hahahahah okay whatever.

And racing stripes. They look like god damn mustangs, in a good way.

Good mustangs? The only thing they're good for is running over people at cars & coffee