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 mrhappyface wrote:

 meleti wrote:
A Blood Angels Captain will make quick work of a Fire Raptor. This is very much a GK problem, not an Imperium one.

I keep hearing that Blood Angel Captains are great and can kill anything but I don't know why.

Deepstrike + 3d6 charge strat + Black Rage stratagem + jump pack relic that doesn't allow overwatch + that WL trait that gives you 5+++ FNP + reroll 1s for that same FNP. Combine with TH/SS and Red Thirst and you have a guy that as long as he can deepstrike within 12" can reliably take at least 9 wounds of a Raptor (5 attacks with 3+ to hit rerolling 1s and wounding on 2s) without the thing being able to do anything about it because no overwatch. And with a 3+/3++/5+++ saveline he's quite durable as well.

I personally called out the Fire Raptor OP from the moment the FW index came out, then the FAQ happened and it didn't get nerfed and I went wtf? It is basically the Stormraven but trades the transport capacity for more wounds and a better offense.

Ice_can wrote:
Is the fireraptor half as good/OP without Bobby G though?
Is it more that Forgeworld actually balance their units without needing the bobby G crutch to be playable.

I realy wish Bobby G had been written better I love the model, love the charictor but he plays powerfully but terribly.
A better buff would have been allowing him to change the tactical disipline rule to twice per phase.

The Fire Raptor is still considered OP in Chaos lists that obviously lack Bobby G, so yeah.

 Arachnofiend wrote:
The Fire Raptor is still considered OP in Chaos lists that obviously lack Bobby G, so yeah.

Tell that to the Guard player I play regularly.