A call for a world wide crack down on grey minis

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**Blndmage**

Crimson wrote:
Blndmage wrote:

My games take longer, I have a large print tape measure, I use the old laser pointer GW made years back for TLOS, I roll bigger dice.
To be fair, before my vision got worse, I did manage to paint my Necrons, very poorly, but it's simply too much detail, I wind up making it horrible.
I've managed to paint super simple stuff like the TTCombat Cyber Guns, and styrofoam terrain, but that's about it.

Visual impairment is super common, why do think glasses are such a widely accepted prosthetic?
Very very few people are 'black blind' like medial shows us. Many of us have some for of light perception, maybe blurred shapes, but nothing like picking out the details on models.

Right, I understand. I meant that such visual impairmen that cannot be corrected with classes to functional level is pretty rare. But obviously your situation is a perfectly good reason for not painting. Granted, with Necrons you're basically done at acceptable levels with a coat of spray silver and a wash...

Oh, I'm talking about while wearing my glasses!

My Warriors painted 12yrs ago:

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My proxy Sentry Pylon painted last week, I did the base, my wife did the ring+gun:

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**StormX**

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
I'm not offended, if anything I am trying to help your arguing skills.

If you dont see the value in any of the numerous points that have been raised regarding grey minis, I don't think I can help you.

I do see the value, and i have responded to why i disagree, that doesn't mean i think there opinions are valueless mate. Relax take a chill pill,

**Excommunicatus**

This is a stupid hill to die on.

I can't really put it any plainer than that.

**Desubot**

Stormatious wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:
Stormatious wrote:
Like do you think the majority of trading card gamers would accept some one turning up with just plain cardboard? its honestly the same thing when it comes with 40k with regards to having painted models.

Plenty of TCG players allow and use proxy cards.

Well id say that's extremely rare and would probably occur in a extremely casual game with some good friends, especially for some thing like Magic The Gathering. But in general this i don't believe is true and there for irrelevant.

Pretty sure its the opposite, pick up games and school yard brawls no one cares if you take extra lands and proxy stuff in marker because people play to play. obviously in Tournaments or sanctioned events you cant which is the same thing as going to a Tournament or League in which the rules are set for painted miniatures.

If ANYTHING the only way to encourage more people to play painted is to run more leagues and events with ether rules to come painted or prizes for those that do.

**Blndmage**

Also people with shakes, either from disability or other reasons.

There are many reasons that layers may be unable to physically paint their own models.

Disabled gamers are valid.

**insaniak**

Telling people they're only allowed to have fun the way you personally prefer never ends well.

Moving on.