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 Slowroll wrote:
If you like Imperial Fists, the new Librarian with the Marksman's Honors WL trait and the relic Bolt Pistol might be fun.

I was thinking of painting them in a WWII winter style, with the pure white smock and a medium green. Probably Raven Guard, maybe something else.

Yeah, the Spartean is actually pretty good on someone that can pop close at the enemy. It isn't the best, but shooting at a character, rerolling to hit and wound is pretty great. The Crimson Fists' weapons is better overall, but the Spartean can pop characters. Most characters are rocking a 4+ at best, so you are probably going to put 3 wounds on a dude.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
Crimson fists is also good but not really with these units. Snipers aren't outnumbered vs characters

Snipers have the +1 vs Enemy Characters Stratagem from being Crimson Fists though.

Or you can just take a chapter master and get the same results basically - with no CP wasted if you take a named character. That is the problem. +1 to hit warlord trait is great though - It is great for 10 man hellblasters and plasma inceptors.

Mentors Chapter. One of the youngest chapters (Prior to the Primaris founding), and thus less set in their ways than the older Foundings. They also act as "mentors" to other Imperial formations, and so have good relations with the IG. Probably not a favorite of the Ultramarines or their successors, as they are not Codex-compliant, and usually go with what works best as opposed to going by the book. So the Mentors would accept these new Primaris, run various live-fire exercises to see what they are capable of, and then start deploying them where they'd best fit.

Lore wise, they'll fit in just fine in any chapter. If there was one chapter that I maybe wouldn't have as many of them in, it would be Black Templars.

I'll be making mine Dark Angels, just because I have two Dark Vengeance sets lying around.

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
Mentors Chapter. One of the youngest chapters (Prior to the Primaris founding), and thus less set in their ways than the older Foundings. They also act as "mentors" to other Imperial formations, and so have good relations with the IG. Probably not a favorite of the Ultramarines or their successors, as they are not Codex-compliant, and usually go with what works best as opposed to going by the book. So the Mentors would accept these new Primaris, run various live-fire exercises to see what they are capable of, and then start deploying them where they'd best fit.

Because of their colors, I call them "Spearmintors"

LAUGH AT IT

IT'S CLEVER

Loyalist Alpha Legion.

 Danielle Rae wrote:
Loyalist Alpha Legion.

So Alpha Legion? I don't understand the need for the qualifier.

 Adeptus Doritos wrote:

 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
Mentors Chapter. One of the youngest chapters (Prior to the Primaris founding), and thus less set in their ways than the older Foundings. They also act as "mentors" to other Imperial formations, and so have good relations with the IG. Probably not a favorite of the Ultramarines or their successors, as they are not Codex-compliant, and usually go with what works best as opposed to going by the book. So the Mentors would accept these new Primaris, run various live-fire exercises to see what they are capable of, and then start deploying them where they'd best fit.

Because of their colors, I call them "Spearmintors"

LAUGH AT IT

IT'S CLEVER

Iron Hands seems like it’d be fairly good. Raven Guard seems too easy for the opponent to turn off with you infiltrating all up in their grille, so the 6+FNP is probably the better durability buff. The maths seems really nice for primaris in general as it gives a model a 1/3 chance of tanking a 2/d3 damage shot, which are normally really good at killing them

C4790M wrote:
Iron Hands seems like it’d be fairly good. Raven Guard seems too easy for the opponent to turn off with you infiltrating all up in their grille, so the 6+FNP is probably the better durability buff. The maths seems really nice for primaris in general as it gives a model a 1/3 chance of tanking a 2/d3 damage shot, which are normally really good at killing them

The chance of rolling at least 1 successful fnp in that scenario is 11/36, not 1/3.

I am playing mine as Death Spectres with RG tactics.

Pandabeer wrote:

C4790M wrote:
Iron Hands seems like it’d be fairly good. Raven Guard seems too easy for the opponent to turn off with you infiltrating all up in their grille, so the 6+FNP is probably the better durability buff. The maths seems really nice for primaris in general as it gives a model a 1/3 chance of tanking a 2/d3 damage shot, which are normally really good at killing them

The chance of rolling at least 1 successful fnp in that scenario is 11/36, not 1/3.

Because maths is weird. But the general premise is still good.

 Sir Heckington wrote:

Pandabeer wrote:

C4790M wrote:
Iron Hands seems like it’d be fairly good. Raven Guard seems too easy for the opponent to turn off with you infiltrating all up in their grille, so the 6+FNP is probably the better durability buff. The maths seems really nice for primaris in general as it gives a model a 1/3 chance of tanking a 2/d3 damage shot, which are normally really good at killing them

The chance of rolling at least 1 successful fnp in that scenario is 11/36, not 1/3.

Because maths is weird. But the general premise is still good.

It's not weird, it's basic probability calculation. But yeah, still a nice perk to have.

Pandabeer wrote:

 Sir Heckington wrote:

Pandabeer wrote:

C4790M wrote:
Iron Hands seems like it’d be fairly good. Raven Guard seems too easy for the opponent to turn off with you infiltrating all up in their grille, so the 6+FNP is probably the better durability buff. The maths seems really nice for primaris in general as it gives a model a 1/3 chance of tanking a 2/d3 damage shot, which are normally really good at killing them

The chance of rolling at least 1 successful fnp in that scenario is 11/36, not 1/3.

Because maths is weird. But the general premise is still good.

It's not weird, it's basic probability calculation. But yeah, still a nice perk to have.

It was a joke about how it doesn't work the way you would expect at the base level, but I think this is besides the thread lol.