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 Insectum7 wrote:
I don't care if it's a retcon or not, but claiming they weren't "written out" when they were literally removed from an entire series of novels seems rather daft.

A non-insignificant effort was made to remove a main character of three books, and one of the reasons given is apparently "eaten by Nids". It could be a tongue-in-cheek reference, or even a misunderstanding, but it's definitely there.

It's pretty obvious GW have done a full 360 on the Squats. Maybe it's not unrelated to the fact that much of the old 90s and 2000s design team left. I get a sense they really didn't want the Squats back, largely because they were an unredeemably Rogue Trader era when from 2nd edition onwards they were trying to polish their ranges to the level of American companies like TSR and the Squats were just too infected with the kind of eccentric and comic amateurism of the early days. They could have easily redesigned the Squats in 2nd edition but didn't, and they seem to have sat on them for a long time. The failure of the Demiurg to capture their attention enough to become a full range just added to that. It was same generation of designers who toyed with it. I think just they wanted to bury it for ever. This change is maybe a reflection of the reality that the Squats have become an object of strange fascination and interest precisely because they tried to erase them out, a kind of Old Coke, New Coke thing, given the Squats weren't that popular back in 2nd edition from what I remember.

Now we're in a different world where nostalgia for RT and early forms of Warhammer are high, Sci-fi has moved on from the 80s/90s with some very different tropes and themes and hardly anyone will remember the trikes. The success in reintegrating Imperial robots and Imperial Knights into the background in an organic way probably set the stage for this. This kind of thing is badly needed regeneration of the 40k universe after years of Marines and Chaos obssesion.

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Well it's not like the marine obsession is going away, heh.

If I had to guess, I'd point to what seems to be a much increased production capacity brought on by the move to digitization. When miniature design is a couple guys doing things by hand you just can't do that much. With an increase in staff and some excellent 3d sculpting and sprue layout workflows I'd expect more room for new armies. It's cool.

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It's going to be quite disappointing of the solution to where they went ends up being something like "The Votann said they wouldn't survive The tyranids so they all got on ships and left and have been fleet-based ever since". They could do so much more with them. Have it be the Imperium who were really the invaders and the Homeworlds destroyed themselves to stop them finding out the Ancestor Cores, with there being some smaller leagues deep in the galactic core stayed isolated, or have them use some sort of DAoT superweapon the Votann instructed them to make to escape and then fortify their new worlds for the past few millennia. Just getting on ships and the Imperium thinking they were wiped out because of that would be a bit boring.

If they've got these super powerful AI cores guiding their whole civilization than I think they need to establish that the cores are actually extremely capable and would be able to do something the Kin wouldn't have themselves.

ferrus91 wrote:
 Insectum7 wrote:


Now we're in a different world where nostalgia for RT and early forms of Warhammer are high, Sci-fi has moved on from the 80s/90s with some very different tropes and themes and hardly anyone will remember the trikes. The success in reintegrating Imperial robots and Imperial Knights into the background in an organic way probably set the stage for this. This kind of thing is badly needed regeneration of the 40k universe after years of Marines and Chaos obssesion.


This is the thing that makes how they appear to be doing their re-introduction a little odd to me, because while lore-wise the advanced tech/AI angle seems a slight call-back to their original lore and that's an interesting direction for sure, but the designs of them so far in terms of look and thematic style seem to have almost nothing in common with Squats, or even the Grendlesen miniature, beyond the idea of "They're Sci-fi Dwarfs".


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 Mentlegen324 wrote:
We also know Imperial wards and protections against them are very much effective. Does this mean everything Imperium does is perfectly rational and sensible? Of course not, there is probably ton of misunderstood or corrupted thinking and useless rituals mixed in anti-chaos protocols, but that's the funny thing - warp operates on faith so the badly mangled text on purity seal will still protect whatever it's on because the creator believes it will work.
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The warp does not operate on faith, the Warp operates on raw emotion and feelings and strength of conviction, not "It's true just because i want it to be" with that belief itself being the reason. Please provide quotes / evidence / a source for Imperial Wards and protections having a definite affect simply because the person with them believed they would.

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The warp does not operate on faith, the Warp operates on raw emotion and feelings and strength of conviction, not "It's true just because i want it to be" with that belief itself being the reason. Please provide quotes / evidence / a source for Imperial Wards and protections having a definite affect simply because the person with them believed they would.


Well, that Sisters of Battle can still manifest Acts of Faith, and the associated miracles in the Pariah Nexus is strongly indicative that for them at least, it’s not a psychic manifestation as such.

Given they’re powered by their sheer Faith in the Emperor, one could argue that is the evidence you ask for.

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