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Well yes, did you think GW was going to just believe people without any proof? Otherwise you could just submit anything you've painted ever and say "honest I painted this this month promise".

I don't really see how that's unreasonable; just the same as not counting LI troop bases as multiple models.

 Overread wrote:
Well yes, did you think GW was going to just believe people without any proof? Otherwise you could just submit anything you've painted ever and say "honest I painted this this month promise".

I don't really see how that's unreasonable; just the same as not counting LI troop bases as multiple models.

Proving that they're not painted already is fine, obviously that's needed. But they aren't doing just that, it's them specifically needing to be unassembled sprues that is the issue. Not just unpainted, but unassembled too.

For a challenge that according to the article is about just painting.

Has anyone asked if we can submit “here they are, in the shrink wrap” via FB?

At the minute, I'm not even sure stores will have settled on how they're approaching it - and expect it to be different per store.

I popped into my local GW for the MotM this afternoon, and the staff member on duty said they hadn't finalised things yet.

 Overread wrote:
(snip) just the same as not counting LI troop bases as multiple models.

I don't think its that unreasonable, seeing as they are the ones that choose to artificially inflate the contents of their boxes by adding 'X citadels miniatures' on the LI boxes themselves.

I don't think anyone should ever hassle some poor staffer over it. But Head Office made it a fact by printing it on the box prior to making this challenge and then didn't confirm the 'rules' of the challenge (outside of someone claiming it was on facebook). Knowing how some people like to bend and break rules of a 'hobby' game anyway, to the point that it needs regular "official" updates, fixes, 'meta' ( ) changes and FAQs, they must know this would be exploited.

Honestly, I'm sure a simple chat with your local store and as long as you are not trying to pull one over on them, they will probably be fine with what ever you pledge if its fair.

To clarify my stance: making jokes on an internet forum about how to count Epic-scale infantry or Citadel skulls is fine and good, but hassling a store employee about how technically LI does not mandate a specific number of infantry per base, and therefore it is OK that you got 200 "miniatures" out of an LI box of space marines, is not.

I dunno where the distinction is really. I mean I'm not doing this either way - my nearest GW is too far away, I have far better local options - but a miniature is a miniature, whether it's 15ish mm or 28ish. It does "feel" wrong to say a base of LI marines is 5 miniatures, but that doesn't stop GW from putting it on the box... it's a poorly thought through promo and the multi billion pound company can weather a bit of friendly needling over it, no worries there.

 sigkill wrote:
therefore it is OK that you got 200 "miniatures" out of an LI box of space marines

Except you literally do have hundreds of "miniatures" in a Legionnes Imperialis box according to games workshop themselves. That is why there are posts here about it.

It's not just a joke, those posts aren't trying to be difficult and figure out a way to sneakily count them as more than they should really be, it's just pointing out that they're literally labelled as a box of that many miniatures by GW.

Hence why you need to ask staff. And if it’s not the answer you didn’t want? Suck it up.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hence why you need to ask staff. And if it’s not the answer you didn’t want? Suck it up.

I've not got any Legionnes Imperialis miniatures myself so it's not a problem for me, I just think it's a bit odd that some are acting like it's some sort of dishonest attempt to cheat at this when it's just how GW labels them.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hence why you need to ask staff. And if it’s not the answer you didn’t want? Suck it up.

You seem to have an imaginary scenario in your head where Dakkanauts are always one step away from storming their local GW with pitchforks, and you are the saviour of the GW staff.

Please stop.

 Overread wrote:
Well yes, did you think GW was going to just believe people without any proof? Otherwise you could just submit anything you've painted ever and say "honest I painted this this month promise".

Scumbags will do anything for a free coaster, smh

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Well yes, did you think GW was going to just believe people without any proof? Otherwise you could just submit anything you've painted ever and say "honest I painted this this month promise".

Scumbags will do anything for a free coaster, smh

I'll have you know that those coasters cost GW approx £0.10 to manufacture!

People will do anything for them

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hence why you need to ask staff. And if it’s not the answer you didn’t want? Suck it up.

You seem to have an imaginary scenario in your head where Dakkanauts are always one step away from storming their local GW with pitchforks, and you are the saviour of the GW staff.

Are you telling me that you don't have a supply of pitchforks and burning torches? I can supply some if you have run out.
We should always be ready to lay siege at a moments notice - how else can we ensure proper standards are met!

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hence why you need to ask staff. And if it’s not the answer you didn’t want? Suck it up.

You seem to have an imaginary scenario in your head where Dakkanauts are always one step away from storming their local GW with pitchforks, and you are the saviour of the GW staff.

Please stop.

Have you ever worked retail?

Have you ever had to deal with a wilfully difficult customer?

I have, it’s not fun. Hence? Ask staff at your local store, and accept what they say. No issues up to that point at all. If anything is unclear or uncertain, asking to find out is fine.

But…if it’s not the answer you want? That’s when you risk going Karen. As per my earliest post on this matter? I don’t expect any Dakkanaut to go Karen. Because I’m sure it’s just folk having a laugh.

As I said though, I’ve worked retail. Karen’s exist. And they never, ever think they’re being a Karen.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Undead_Love-Machine wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Hence why you need to ask staff. And if it’s not the answer you didn’t want? Suck it up.

You seem to have an imaginary scenario in your head where Dakkanauts are always one step away from storming their local GW with pitchforks, and you are the saviour of the GW staff.

Please stop.

Have you ever worked retail?

Have you ever had to deal with a wilfully difficult customer?

I have, it’s not fun. Hence? Ask staff at your local store, and accept what they say. No issues up to that point at all. If anything is unclear or uncertain, asking to find out is fine.

But…if it’s not the answer you want? That’s when you risk going Karen. As per my earliest post on this matter? I don’t expect any Dakkanaut to go Karen. Because I’m sure it’s just folk having a laugh.

As I said though, I’ve worked retail. Karen’s exist. And they never, ever think they’re being a Karen.

I worked retail for approx 8 years when I was younger.

I worked in a music shop (great!) and was a manager in a betting shop in some of the most deprived areas of Birmingham (not so great!).

So yes, I know how bad retail can be.

Regardless, we are on Dakka. It's safe to assume that the average user (like you, I assume) has been in the hobby for a long time, and doesn't need other people on Dakka to tell them how to act when they walk into a shop

 Overread wrote:
Are you telling me that you don't have a supply of pitchforks and burning torches? I can supply some if you have run out.

You're not meant to store them while they're burning - that'll make your stockpile go up in smoke!

 Dysartes wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Are you telling me that you don't have a supply of pitchforks and burning torches? I can supply some if you have run out.

You're not meant to store them while they're burning - that'll make your stockpile go up in smoke!

.

But the store staffer who sold them to me told me that keeping them burning was the best way to keep them lit and ready to use at all times.

Are you saying a store staffer lied to generate more repeat sales every other day from me?!