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Since there already are countless threads discussing the new rules, the meta shift, the direction GW is going and so on and so forth, I thought we could dedicate a thread to just discussing the quality of the 3 books and other funny things in general.

Currently I'm working my way through the first book (A Galaxy of War) and I have already found 2 spelling mistakes.

- page 30, right side, 2nd paragraph: one instead of once

Also, another funny: check out page 37. Is GW deliberately trolling us or did the high and mighty 'Eavy Metal Team actually put a Rhino with a missing trackpiece in the army display? 0.o

So if you are wondering how you might contribute to this thread, share your own thoughts about the product. When did you buy it? On release day? Later? Did you struggle with yourself about committing to 7th edition or was it a nobrainer? Did you get enough games in 6th? How do you feel about the design? The 3 front covers? The main slipcase design? The miniature showcase? Which models did you miss? What do you love about the new books?


Personally, I LOVE the new interior designs on all three books. A Galaxy of War is nothing but pure, unadulterated miniature porn. I like the new style of GW shooting photos of minis. Previously it was very clinical and either individual miniature shots, but small pics, or large army shots. While the latter hasnt changed, the zoom on closeups and the layout of the pictures is really a fresh take on presenting a miniature gallery that is inspiring and engaging at the same time. Unfortunately what is completely missing in the Galaxy of War book is the entire hobby aspect of the game. Shots of battlefields, players playing a game and campaign showcases etc. that the 5th and 6th edition BRBs contained are completely absent here. As are painting guides and such. As for the rules, the layout there is also cleaner than all the spindly doodles that surrounded the rules in the 6th edition book, but on the other hand putting random army shots in the main rulebook feels out of place. I still have to take a gander at the fluff section, but from what I hear M34-M40 is missing in terms of history.

As for the outer covers....ugh. This is a classic example of "dont judge a book by its cover" because I think 7th edition arguably has the worst cover design ever. The slipcase cover design, while semi decent, still looks like it was hastily slapped together by a GW college summer intern. Plain white, red trim, copy-pasted DA character and 40k logo. Gone are the days of the glorious warhammer surrounded by myriad symbols like the covers of 4th and 5th edition. At least with 6th edition we had a huge battle diorama. But it gets even worse when it comes to the logos of the individual books themselves - copy pasted from previous artworks. A Dark Eldar Haemonculus for the main rulebook? seriously? And the Ultramarine for A Galaxy of War also looks very shabby and hastily sketched. Compared to the same pic found in the SM codex, it also appears more faded and less blue.

Personally, I haven't seen it in person yet, but I'm less than impressed because the covers are terrible. They don't tell you anything about what they contain and just seem phoned in. Compared to the old covers that had something (the ones that could be heavy metal album covers, for instance).

So I don't think they are much to look at, too expensive for what I actually want (the rules book, not the other too), and as such haven't bothered to look at them any further.

I actually rather like the cover design, but the aesthetics are surely secondary to the content.

After all you wouldn't give up playing because you didn't like the font used, but if the rules were crappy you might give up.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I actually rather like the cover design, but the aesthetics are surely secondary to the content.

After all you wouldn't give up playing because you didn't like the font used, but if the rules were crappy you might give up.

Depends if said font is Comic Sans.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I actually rather like the cover design, but the aesthetics are surely secondary to the content.

After all you wouldn't give up playing because you didn't like the font used, but if the rules were crappy you might give up.

Definitely. I think if I was buying it now I'd be cutting the cover off and getting it spiral bound. Which makes paying more for a hard cover hurt even more...

I was shown a copy by the manager at the ne GW store near me and I have to say it definitely impressed me.

Now I've been holding back specifically waiting on a boxgame mini rulebook or a separate mini book but I actually did almost impulse buy it. Fortunately sanity prevailed.

The cover is not what we have come to expect but it is interesting. The formatting/setting out is pleasing enough but I like the artwork as well. Its a rulebook without a SM on the from after all (don't be fooled by the slipcase!).

Now I can't speak for the gameplay heard nothing but good things for the club though) but the fact that all rules are in bold seems like a very good thing. Even if 40k never gets completely ironed out this should help immensely.

Lots of € for the content there.... and i didn't resist...

3 Books; 1 filled with rules, 1 filled with 95% recycled fluff, 1 filled with useless pics.
If the set was also available as singular choice and I had a chance to skim the books before buying them, I'd just consider the rules as a "maybe"...
Thats not good. I really like the background and wouldn't mind spending some € on "just fluff".

The Black Library is there for you.

If you were a complete beginner you probably would appreciate a set that included fluff and pics as well as rules. However you might also like some models to start having a game. From that angle, the insistence on selling a £60 intro set without rules, and a £50 intro rules set without models, neither of which satisfies veterans, is a bit of a puzzle.

Personally I think it was a really good idea to split the fluff, pics and rules into separate volumes but I want the rules only as I don't need the rest of the edition.

The 3-book box is a good idea, if there was an alternative rules-only set.
I don't wants the 2 other books, as they're rehashes of books I already have.
So, until a small book, or a anything that is bag-sized and cheaper than the 3-book set, I'll stick to the ebook version.

The quality of the books is fine, but I remain annoyed that I had to buy two extra books I have no interest in.

If like me you had not bought them it would have sent a clear message to GW that they need to put out the rulebook by itself for a significantly lower price.

Actually I bought them for A Galaxy of War and Dark Millenium

The rules are basically 6th edition + changes summarized in a dozen dakka threads

I like that they seperated the Fluff and Model porn from the primary rules. i don't know how many times i had to dig through a codex or the BRB looking for a rule to find it was obscured in a paragraph that looked to me like pure fluff. (like the Space wolves rule that no two models can have the same Saga, except names don't count for that limit.)

I don't like the fact that, like in all prior editions I've played, common exceptions to the basic rules are only listed in one relevant area, an not with the rule that they are an exception to. EX: in the assault section, there is a list of things that cannot assault. units arriving from reserves is not on that list. Under reserves, in a small paragraph I missed on my first read through, it says units arriving cannot assault the turn they arrive.

I like the idea of splitting it, as it means they have the capacity to produce The Rules as a single book. Whether they will or not remains to be seen, but until I can get the rules for less than £20 I shan't be touching 7th.

I'm not paying for fluff that is the same but less than that I paid £45 for 2 years ago, and the same goes for the model pics. If they had put the Visions of the Dark Millennium book in there, the art collection one, then I might have been interested, I'd have kept that and the rules and sold off the other two, as I've been wanting a 40k art book for a while, but again, not at the cost of full entry into another game.

So the best thing I can say about the new rulebook and the way it's available is 'thanks! I'd never considered starting Malifaux before, but if you insist.'

 Sir Arun wrote:
Actually I bought them for A Galaxy of War and Dark Millenium

Really? If they were the only books you wanted I'm sure half of the buyers on dakka would have sent you them for $5 + postage.




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 Paradigm wrote:
So the best thing I can say about the new rulebook and the way it's available is 'thanks! I'd never considered starting Malifaux before, but if you insist.'

And the Malifaux book without the fluff costs a mind bending £10 ($15). It'd be rude not to, I'm even considering getting one to take to games even though I own the big book with all the fluff and stats (£30).

Herzlos wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
So the best thing I can say about the new rulebook and the way it's available is 'thanks! I'd never considered starting Malifaux before, but if you insist.'

And the Malifaux book without the fluff costs a mind bending £10 ($15). It'd be rude not to, I'm even considering getting one to take to games even though I own the big book with all the fluff and stats (£30).

Exactly For the money I'd have to spend to get 'up to date' on 40k, with 7th and the new IG codex, I will instead be getting that small rulebook and 2 crews. I think which option is the better investment is fairly obvious.

Overall I was quite disappointed by Galaxy of War.
Sure there are some pretty cool setups and the new lighting/smoke effects do help a lot - its a positive step for GW but for an entire book there simply isnt enough of them.
The amount of fluff and creative potential they could have used was really wasted.
Hell, I think 10 of us in a room could come up with some truely epic setups and cinematic photographic moments. GW have a wealth of painted models, terrain and effects to use and simply didnt push the boat out enough imho.

In addition they used some "old paintjob" models for some of the showcases, the one of Marneus Calgar especially, its simply not a top notch paint job, Nard and other indy painters blow them away. So if this was GWs flagship product for 7th why didnt they update/redo/improve some of the older paint jobs?

Thank you for starting this thread! Always wanted to share my positive feelings of the 3books as well and now's the perfect chance.

For every previous edition (2nd, 5th, 6th) I only purchase the mini rulebook along with the starter set to save money. This is the first time I purchased the BRB, because I was interested in the fluff and recent improvements in the photography of the minitures over the past few years, also this might be the last ruleset edition I purchase before GW priced me out. I purchased it on Day 1, ordered it from a FLAG with 25% discount on preorders from $100CAD MSRP. If it weren't for the discount I might not have purchased it due to price.

First Impression is very good! I love the 3 book format seperating the rules from the fluff and pictures, this makes the rulebook thin enough to travel with. I love the slipcase binding the 3 books together making a great collector piece. The material of the books is great too, same goes for the hardcover material. The only thing I don't like is the cover art. The poorest design out of all previous BRB coverart. I doesn't convey any sense of the 40K world, its a shame as the codex covers in comparsion is excellent.

There's very little to complain out, but there still is... spelling errors irks me the most. My own grammer and spelling is not perfect by no means but I'm Chinese and there's my excuse. I doesn't make sense to me an ENGLISH selling high priced books should be allowed Spelling errors. Another pet peeve I have is the recycled materials. I owned the 2nd edition rulebook and Decent of Angel codex. I noticed that a lot of the imperium fluff in the Dark Millennium book are copy/paste from 2nd ed ruleset. Same thing for my Dark Angel codex. Lastly I want to point out the artwork of Art of the Dark Millennium, the $90 artbook a supplliment, has a lot of recycled artwork from the 3 books. I was tempted to purchase it unti I saw Spiky Bit's review of it from the limited edition set.

With the minor flaws out of the way I love my purchase. The artwork, layout, photography, fluff, models are the best in the industry. I wold highly recommad this to anyone who has a love for minitures even if they don't play the game.

P.S Another easter egg on Book 1 A Galaxy Of War pg81 Grey Knight 2 pg spread rightmost stormraven, no twinlinked melta for him!

 Sir Arun wrote:
Actually I bought them for A Galaxy of War and Dark Millenium

The rules are basically 6th edition + changes summarized in a dozen dakka threads

Can I have your rulebook please?

Why so many spelling errors? Does the intern not have spell check?

I saw one in a chapter heading somewhere and I shook my head at it.

1) Mandatory Catalog. Fatter version of visions, no bueno.

2) Recycled Fluff and missing fluff. The fluff book is incomplete compared to the ebook edition (would love photos to prove, I don't intend to ever buy the physical 3-pack):
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?395469-Chunk-of-timeline-missing-from-Dark-Millenium

3) The rules have many other forums to discuss.

Overall, pretty tepid package for the cost. You can get the big rule book for 2 other games or the small rule book for 4 other games for the cost of GW's package. I wish they'd have just sold the rules for $45 hardback and then there'd be one less complaint on the matter.

I would have preferred the rules to be sold by itself. I don't care for the other 2 books.

Agreed 100%

 Riquende wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
I actually rather like the cover design, but the aesthetics are surely secondary to the content.

After all you wouldn't give up playing because you didn't like the font used, but if the rules were crappy you might give up.

Depends if said font is Comic Sans.

Excellent link, thanks for that

Why do you describe the eavy metal team as "high and mighty"?

This is the last edition of 40k or fantasy im buying simply because im more interested in history games. So buying it was easy (its the last one). So i'll play forever just wont be updating my books.

The presentation of the books is great. I loved how it wasnt a Space marine on every cover too. It was neat and the photography was pretty well done.

I didnt read anything but the rules (40k fluff is just stupid to read now in my opinion haha) but I did notice how little they wrote on each faction. I guess they want people to get the codex and learn more but the whole thing seemed brief.

Other than that I think the book was much better than the last. It was more compact. Looked nicer. I also like the page layout.