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Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

Which character do you think, when added to a unit of 10 Rough Riders (both death korps and standard) will have the most impact on its effectiveness?

I ask because I am about to put a lot of effort into making a cool unit of riders and frankly I kind of want them to be effective on their first game

Cheers
   
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting





Augusta GA

Well, there's always the ubiquitous chapter master on bike, riding in front and tanking all the hits. Make him a White Scars chapter guy so he can leave the combat after the initial charge and go handle things elsewhere.
   
Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

Is that the best though? Surely there is some wargear, psychic power or special ability that can give these guys an edge...
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Florida

Keep them in reserves as long as you can. If they come in keep them out of LOS as long as you can. Turn 4-5 move them forwards towards an unclaimed objective that your gunline can keep clean off of enemy OS troops.

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Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

I know how to use them, its more what can I add to them that will improve them. I mean they are cav, im gonna use them like cav (fluff player) just wanted to know if anyone knows the perfect character to stick with them.
   
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel




Norway (Oslo)

if only a commisar could ride a horse oooooh wait they can.
¨KRIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEG!¨

Waagh like a bawz

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Wood Elves 2600 points, 6/4/0 (W/L/D)

 
   
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Maryland

Add a White Scar Beatstick CM. A big problem with Riders is how fragile they are and the CM stops this.

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Made in ca
Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer





British Columbia

What about a Dark Angels Librarian with PFG on a bike?

You could fish for some powers to buff the RR and he could LoS any wounds which might ID him onto 4++ RRs

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Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

Yea that sounds pretty decent. How is he points wise roughly?

The powers are an added bonus too.
   
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord




Inside Yvraine

I would take something with access to prescience or preferred enemy so that you can maximize their charge attacks. They're basically complete gak post-charge, so you need to make it count.
   
Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

The main issue is getting them mounted in the first place. Im sure there are plenty of non mountable characters out there that would be great. Im just not sure of mounted ones.

So far i think the Librarian on bike seems like my best bet.
   
Made in ca
Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer





British Columbia

115 level 1
150 level 2

 BlaxicanX wrote:
A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.


 
   
Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

Hmm thats nearing the cost of the unit itself. I guess it could prove invaluable to them though.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





Malaysia

If you were to use a Krieg list, I think you can mount a Commissar and he can join the unit. Pity Priests can't mount up - they would have been perfect.

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Made in il
Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch






Sang priests can be on bikes/jumppacks though. that's a nice boost to horsie durability.

Requires to ally with BA though

can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. 
   
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Death-Dealing Dark Angels Devastator




VA

 Badablack wrote:
Well, there's always the ubiquitous chapter master on bike, riding in front and tanking all the hits. Make him a White Scars chapter guy so he can leave the combat after the initial charge and go handle things elsewhere.


Iron Hands CM on a bike, Shield Eternal, Thunder Hammer/Burning Blade with gorgon chain.
   
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 BoomWolf wrote:
Sang priests can be on bikes/jumppacks though. that's a nice boost to horsie durability.

Requires to ally with BA though

Sang Priests only give FNP to other blood angels
   
Made in us
Storm Trooper with Maglight






Georgia

Yeah I would go with the Dark Angels Librarian on a bike with power field generator. This biggest problem RR had was durability and the 4++ is the best they'll get. Then you can prescience them before they charge in. The other power is just gravy.

I've used DA with power field generators a lot for extra protection on Pask and tank squadrons. Fun thing is now in 7th the DA techmarine with PFG can repair IG vehicles now.

Good call Eldarain, I may actually try him with rough riders instead of hugging as many tanks as possible.

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40k is as exciting as riding a pony, which doesn't sound very exciting.......

But the pony is 300 feet tall and covered in CHAINSAWS! 
   
Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

So we have a rough rider unit (assuming we are using krieg) thats base cost is 160 points for a squad of 10 with the following benefits over a standard RR squad:

Iron discipline (no moral for shooting)
FnP 6+
WS 4
Wounds 2
Re Roll dangerous terrain
4+ save
2 attacks

Add Librarian for 150 points for:

4+ invulnerable
extra tanky wounds
Prescience
Extra Power that may be useful

So 300 points max (without weapon upgrades) which may not be too bad.

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Made in us
Storm Trooper with Maglight






Georgia

That'll be a fun unit to try out. If anyone tries it let us know how it goes here.

My IG WIP log

40k is as exciting as riding a pony, which doesn't sound very exciting.......

But the pony is 300 feet tall and covered in CHAINSAWS! 
   
Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

When my badger riders are complete I will give it a go. in about one months time.
   
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Martial Arts Fiday






Nashville, TN

 Swastakowey wrote:
When my badger riders are complete I will give it a go. in about one months time.





lol, couldn't resist.

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Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

http://theimperialpatrol.blogspot.co.nz/2014/06/praetorian-rough-riders-badger-lancers.html?m=1

first pic on that link is my concept art haha. Sorry on my phone so can't put the image here for ya.
   
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Martial Arts Fiday






Nashville, TN





There ya go!

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Proverbs 18:2

"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.

 warboss wrote:

GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up.


Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.

EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.

Don't mess with the Blade and Bolter! 
   
Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

Cheers mate.in time they will be brought to life.
   
Made in us
Douglas Bader






The correct answer is "none of the above". Rough riders have exactly one good aspect: they're very cheap for the level of firepower they can deliver if they successfully charge. Adding in expensive support characters makes them no longer cheap, removing the entire purpose of taking them.

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Made in nz
Heroic Senior Officer




New Zealand

Thats not really the answer to the question though:

Which character do you think, when added to a unit of 10 Rough Riders (both death korps and standard) will have the most impact on its effectiveness?

I know how they work, just looking to spice them up, have a bit of fun with them etc.
   
 
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