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Hierarch

Ws 7 Bs 6 S 3 T 3 W 3 I 6 A 4 Ld 9 Sv 3+ 90pts

Unit Type: Infantry (Character)

Wargear: Incubi Warsuit
Klaive (Melee Str + 1 Ap 2)

Special rules: Power from Pain, Night Vision, Fleet.

May replace his Klaive with Demi-Klaives for 10pts
May take an Ancient Incubus Warsuit (2+ Sv) for 20pts
May take a Blood Stone for 10pts

The Hierarch MUST select one of the following disciplines.

Strike at the heart. 10pts: At the start of any combat phase that the Hierarch is in base contact with a unit he has assaulted he may, before any blows are struck but after challenges issued, choose a single enemy model in the combat. This model does not have to be within 3'' of the Hierarch, and that model must roll a D6 + Initiative and so must the Hierarch. If the enemy wins, nothing happens, if the Hierarch wins he may direct all his attacks at that model and it may not attempt any Look Out Sir!. If the chosen model is killed, then the Dark Eldar player gains an additional point of combat resolution.

Revel in pain. 20pts: The Hierarch leads his Incubi to activate there tormentor fields in unison, they are preceded by a bellowing wave of searing pain. The Hierarch and any Incubi he joins count as having assault grenades. In addition, when the Hierarch is part of a unit consisting of only Incubi or himself then each model makes a Str 2 Ap 2 hit at Initiative 10 in addition to their normal attacks.

Word of the Temple. 15pts: The Hierarch must issue challenges were possible. If the Hierarch is part of a unit joined by another independent character, he gains Stubborn.

Khaine's Spear. 15pts: The Hierarch may not join any unit other then Incubi, and any unit he joins may not be joined by other independent characters. The Hierarch and his unit gain Rage.

What do you think?

I like it. Khaine's Spear and Word of the Temple kind of suck though (and I'm not sure what you mean by Stubborn, its not a 40k rule).

Spear especially makes little sense, since Incubi are a bodyguard unit.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
I like it. Khaine's Spear and Word of the Temple kind of suck though (and I'm not sure what you mean by Stubborn, its not a 40k rule).

Spear especially makes little sense, since Incubi are a bodyguard unit.

Stubborn is a 40K Special rule. Makes the unit immune to leadership modifiers.

While yes, Incubi are bodyguards, they also hold alligence to there temple and sometimes the temple will mobilize by itself without a Kabal. That is why i gave them both Word and Spear, Word represents the Hierarch as being the ultamate bodyguard while Spear represents him as being an Aspect of Khaine, above all others and not stooping to being a bodyguard.

Just wanted to ask if you think if it's ok for him to have access to a 2+ save? He would be the only none Phoenix Lord Elf to have it, but then again he is the only none P.Lord Eldar i think deserves it, due to it being a natural progression from the Warsuit. Thoughts?

Instead of a 2+ Armour Save, an Invulnerable Save would be fine. Around 5+, maybe ?

And I don't think Word of the Temple truly worth 15 pts, because the Incubi Hierarch already have high Ld. Either gave him Fearless outright, or lower the price to 10 pts.

Little cheap. An archon is 60 points and this guy gets a 3+ save, and a str+1 AP2 weapon for 20 points.

I priced him off of the Incubi Klaivex, but added points on for the added stats, 10 pts each. He does seem rather good compared to an Archon i grant you, but he does lose out on a lot of versatility, such that delicious Husk Blade and 2++invulnerable save, although that is counteracted nby how he can get a 2+ armour i guess. I am thinking putting him up to 90 pts base and the 2+ armour to 20pts, but that is putting him very expensive for a beat stick with no invulnerable save...

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
I priced him off of the Incubi Klaivex, but added points on for the added stats, 10 pts each. He does seem rather good compared to an Archon i grant you, but he does lose out on a lot of versatility, such that delicious Husk Blade and 2++invulnerable save, although that is counteracted nby how he can get a 2+ armour i guess. I am thinking putting him up to 90 pts base and the 2+ armour to 20pts, but that is putting him very expensive for a beat stick with no invulnerable save...

90 and 20 sound better. But remember, Drazhar is 240 and is thus much more expensive for a beatstick with no invunverable save.

 Exergy wrote:

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
I priced him off of the Incubi Klaivex, but added points on for the added stats, 10 pts each. He does seem rather good compared to an Archon i grant you, but he does lose out on a lot of versatility, such that delicious Husk Blade and 2++invulnerable save, although that is counteracted nby how he can get a 2+ armour i guess. I am thinking putting him up to 90 pts base and the 2+ armour to 20pts, but that is putting him very expensive for a beat stick with no invulnerable save...

90 and 20 sound better. But remember, Drazhar is 240 and is thus much more expensive for a beatstick with no invunverable save.

There's also the Swarmlord... (Outside of combat) and the Old One Eye.

True, i guess you all right. All i can imagine though is that evil Space Marine with a 3++ Eternal Warrior and a Thunder Hammer, but i guess he isn't the best base line person to compare to...

Changed points but i've also found in game play str 1 is RUBBISH, and he wants to be in a Venom not a Raider. So i am changing revel in pain's I10 hit to strength 2 and removing the limit on how many Incubi in the squad, effectively giving them a HOW hit at Str 2 AP2, does that sound fair to you?