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Infiltrating Naga





England

JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF CORREGIDOR
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 8 0 0

IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 73)
IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife.
GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (1.5 | 55)
GECKO PILOT Pistol, Knife.
GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (1.5 | 55)
GECKO PILOT Pistol, Knife.
CARLOTA KOWALSKY Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Adhesive Launcher, D-Charges + Moriarty / Pistol, Knife. (37)
MORIARTY Electric Pulse.
TOMCAT Doctor Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (22)
WILDCAT (Number 2) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (20)
WILDCAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)
WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)

5 SWC | 300 Points

Open with Army 4


I know I've got my aleph lists up and such, I'm still trying to work out which way to take those first. But I've come into possession of some awesome mini's, the iguana squadron and thought
this would be a great place to start working on a linked team using sectorial army as I don't really like what Aleph has to offer in those regards. And I think with it, an alternate style of playing.
This is the list I generally have in mind and the idea is to make use of the TAG's and Moriarty while maneuvering around them setting up covering fire and the like with the rest. Very brute force
and ignorance based compared to the mine laying, infiltrator, camo style & Cqc styled lists I came up with for Aleph.

Can anyone give me some feed back on this? I'm hoping the linked team will make up for not having a full 10 orders for the group.

   
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A lot of units that are going to be order intensive and only 8 orders is going to suck.

Also if you choose to use Carlota and/or Tomcat with thier AD then you lose those orders till they get on the board.

And also wit that many TAGs on the board your not going to make any friends.

   
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Infiltrating Naga





England

The TAG's are so cheap though, and keep with the sectorial list.
I was kinda hoping having a link team might help with the orders a little, the only alternative is to remove carlotta or the tomcat to buy a few aguicils for 10pts per, to raise the my orders. But then they would just be throw-aways vs having an engineer or doctor with bots.

that said the bots do ghost, so thats like.

1 order doctor action
1 order engineer action
1 order fire team action

seven miniatures moving for a minimum of 3 orders if I have them move as a team? Leaving 5 actions to be dispersed between the TAG's or put back into those 3 groups if needed.





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Will admit I'm shocked how cheap these TAG's are. 55pts each for the gecko's is cheaper then an Asura by a long way. Other TAG's like Marmut are over double the cost. Essentially those Gecko's points are on-par with infantry.
The Iguana is a must because I'm simply being given it, that and its an awesome mini, I think it'd look awesome being accompanied by Gecko's.


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Will admit between the TAG's theirs 8 STR points and about 4 wounds, which would be kinda annoying to have to fight.

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I think this would probably be quite a 'cruise missile' approach of a force - you might find that you either smash the other person completely off the board in 2 turns, or they have some counter-TAG equipment and strategy, and it goes the other way.

But then all 'double TAG' lists suffer from this, as you are essentially putting alot of your eggs in one (admittedly very bad-ass) basket.

I might consider using either the Iguana or Geckos in alternate games, plug some more miniatures in, and then wheel this one out when you've already had some games with your opponent. Although, that is very much a personal thing!

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Gathering the Informations.

Ditch the Iguana if you're doing double Geckos and beef up the Wildcat unit with an Engineer and a Spitfire.

Number 2 is okay but not exceedingly useful.

Carlotta is hit or miss.
   
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Infiltrating Naga





England

Eh, Iguana is something I can't really take away. It's coming to me for free as a prize so I'm kinda a must use to me. Plus its one of the reasons due to receiving this that I'm going to get a group to use alongside it.

To me having the Iguana with two gecko's as support just seems kinda bad ass.

I will say I'm unsure about Carlotta, she is pricey but the WiP 14 engi, with 3 TAG's, the ghost bot, which means that I should be able to fix two different TAG's with a single action if they are both within range.

I picked Number 2 because its only 1pt more then normal, makes up the points difference and adds to the linked team.


Cruise missile approach sounds like fun, and much different from how my Aleph goes xD

If I was to take out Carlotta I'm not sure what I could put in, I mean. I know I could fit at least a couple of mini's in.

   
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 Sasa0mg wrote:
I picked Number 2 because [...] adds to the linked team.
It adds nothing here - you need at least four Wildcats to make any use of it, as Number 2 doesn't protect you from a link breaking if it falls below three members.

The main issue with this list is the massive number of TAGs as compared to orders (two of which will likely start off the table). Certainly Geckos are cheap TAGs at 55 pts, but they are nowhere cheap enough to just be order monkeys.

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Infiltrating Naga





England

Okay so I changed out the number two, decided to add more points to take it to engineer, dropping the character and running a list more like this. Though I still like the idea of having bots running about to do my deeds for me before having to put the actual characters into harms way to heal or fix things.

JURISDICTIONAL COMMAND OF CORREGIDOR
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

GROUP 1 10 0 0

ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
ALGUACIL Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (10)
ALGUACIL HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 19)
ALGUACIL Paramedic (MediKit) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (14)
GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (1.5 | 55)
GECKO PILOT Pistol, Knife.
GECKO Mk12, Chain-colt, Blitzen / . (1.5 | 55)
GECKO PILOT Pistol, Knife.
IGUANA HMG, Heavy Flamethrower / . (2 | 73)
IGUANA OPERATOR HMG / Pistol, Knife.
WILDCAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)
WILDCAT Engineer Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (23)
WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (19)

6 SWC | 297 Points

Open with Army 4


   
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My one concern for making a machine heavy list like that would be opposing hackers. They'd probably be able to mess you up. This new list might work out a bit better without the robots. The TAGs could still be susceptible to hacking though.

   
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England

From what I've seen though unless people use repeaters hacking is risky business, so long as my ARO's are in place, given the fact they can only hack one of the TAG's at a time due to activation/actions working one at a time I think I should be okay.

   
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The Alguacils are linkable right?

Any way to get that link team up to 5 to maximize the benefits when the HMG shoots?
   
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Yeah if you can get a hold of Lupe Balboa the Spec Ops mini she links with the Algucils and provides another specialist option.

Also in addition to hackers be weary of assassin runs on your order pool. If a player can maneuver on you and kill off your cheerleaders then those TAGS are dead in the water. And from my understanding this is the most likely scenario a lot of players will attempt when facing TAGs.

   
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Monofilament mines are a wonderful way to ruin a TAGs day. And, like you say Nuclear Messiah, an 'assassination' with a cloaked 'one shot' unit is also pretty effective.

I think the key to fighting them is to target them with everything you've got, or go for the other (necessarily lower quality) troops in the rest of the army. Once the TAG has gone, you're well on the way to retreat status usually.

Will be interesting to see what changes the new rules bring to hacking. We've heard 'more straightforward', which I think was needed, but not necessarily more or less powerful (if at all).

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England

Alpharius wrote:The Alguacils are linkable right?

Any way to get that link team up to 5 to maximize the benefits when the HMG shoots?


Unfortunately the only way to get 5 in that link team, is to completely break the other link team. In which I could exchange one of the wildcats for the spec ops, maybe. The problem with removing a wildcat for a regular Alguacil is after I get that 5th I'm left over with points, not enough to get me something overly useful but too many to simply leave sitting.

NuclearMessiah wrote:Yeah if you can get a hold of Lupe Balboa the Spec Ops mini she links with the Algucils and provides another specialist option.

Also in addition to hackers be weary of assassin runs on your order pool. If a player can maneuver on you and kill off your cheerleaders then those TAGS are dead in the water. And from my understanding this is the most likely scenario a lot of players will attempt when facing TAGs.

Yeah I'm hoping to be a visually intimidating presence, perhaps make people make rash decisions as well as be cautious about my own. I'm not attempting to really cover all my bases with these as my main force is going to be Aleph, these guys considering what I'm getting for free are mostly going to be for fun.

Pacific wrote:Monofilament mines are a wonderful way to ruin a TAGs day. And, like you say Nuclear Messiah, an 'assassination' with a cloaked 'one shot' unit is also pretty effective.

I think the key to fighting them is to target them with everything you've got, or go for the other (necessarily lower quality) troops in the rest of the army. Once the TAG has gone, you're well on the way to retreat status usually.

Will be interesting to see what changes the new rules bring to hacking. We've heard 'more straightforward', which I think was needed, but not necessarily more or less powerful (if at all).

I haven't taken a look into the changes toward hacking, I hope they don't make it too strong but at the same time (as I use it in my aleph) I hope its a bit more user friendly. Most the times its safe to immobilize but attempting to control can often be pushing your luck. I very rarely see people trying to completely take over a TAG

   
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 Sasa0mg wrote:
Unfortunately the only way to get 5 in that link team, is to completely break the other link team.
You cannot run two link teams at once (exceptions currently being the Haris, Enomotarchos and Fireteam:Tohaa skills, but none of these are available to Corregidor), so that's only a relevance if you really do want to be able to switch links mid-game.

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England

 MarcoSkoll wrote:
 Sasa0mg wrote:
Unfortunately the only way to get 5 in that link team, is to completely break the other link team.
You cannot run two link teams at once (exceptions currently being the Haris, Enomotarchos and Fireteam:Tohaas skill, but none of these are available to Corregidor), so that's only a relevance if you really do want to be able to switch links mid-game.


Oh I didnt know.
Hm, well I can switch links when one is broken?

   
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Links are formed either during deployment or by spending the Lt order, both of which allow you to nominate the link leader.

Usually, the Lt order is used to reform a link (usually because it's lost its leader, but sometimes to re-link models that have been healed or swap models if there's a choice of more than five options), rather than switching the link, but either is acceptable.

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England

That actually sounds kinda good.

I can activate one link team, and use them to all move for a single action and do there thing. Or well, a move move.

Then from there I can use my Lt to swap the link, to the OTHER team, and have them move move, do their thing?

That would allow me to condense both teams actions to a single order each plust the Lt's, additionally help hide which one my Lt is. (I see lots of people, in attempts to not reveal their Lt too soon save their Lt command and wind up may as well not having it for the first X amount of turns in a game.)

And on top of that allow me to pump more into my TAG's?

   
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Pretty much, a potential downside is if your opponent knocks out a link leader after the swap. Which can leave the link in an awkward position without enough orders to get the models to safety or where they need to be.

I've had an opponent hold back a hidden TO sniper expressly for this purpose before.
   
 
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