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How does this look?

HQ
-Chaos Lord- Bike, MoN, Sigil, Fist, Claws- 165pts

Troops
-Plague Marines x7, 2x melta, Meltabombs, Axe- 208pts

-Plague Marines x5, 2x melta, meltabombs, axe- 208pts

Fast Attack

-Heldrake, Baleflamer- 170pts

-Heldrake, baleflamer- 170pts

-Chaos Bikes x5, 2x melta, MoN, Champ combimelta, fist- 195pts

Heavy Support

-Chaos Vindicator, Combi bolter, siege shield- 135pts

-Havocs x6, 4x flakk ML, IoV, Mon

-Havoc x5, 4x Autocannon

Formation
Helcult:

-Helbrute, TL Lascannon, Fist w/ Heavy flamer

-Cultists x24, 2 flamer

-Cultists x24 2 flamer


What do you guys think? would it be worth shifting things around to get more PMs on the board?

Do the cultist from helcult get obj secured or count as troops?

 Filch wrote:
Do the cultist from helcult get obj secured or count as troops?

IIRC yes, due to the fact they are still counted as troops.

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 Sillycybin wrote:
TL Lascannon, Fist w/ Heavy flamer don't do this to yourself. Lose the powerfist for the missile launcher or lose the lascannon for a powerscourge.

Your Havocs are also very vulnerable you probably want to lose the autocannon squad and give the missile squad more bodies so they don't lose performance the second they take a wound. The axes are also not necessary on the plague marines.

Alright, how does this look?


HQ
-Chaos Lord- Bike, MoN, Sigil, Fist, Claws- 165pts

Troops
-Plague Marines x5, 2x melta, Rhino w/ Dirge+Dozer - 185pts

-Plague Marines x5, 2x melta, Rhino w/ Dirge+Dozer- 185pts

-Plague Marines x7 2x plasma, melta bombs- 203pts

Fast Attack

-Heldrake, Baleflamer- 170pts

-Heldrake, baleflamer- 170pts

-Chaos Bikes x6, 2x melta, MoN, Champ Meltabombs, axe- 206pts

Heavy Support

-Chaos Vindicator, Combi bolter, siege shield, Daemonic possesion- 135pts

-Havocs x8, 4x flakk ML, VotLW- 222pts



Formation
Helcult:

-Helbrute, TL Lascannon, Missle Launcher- 150pts

-Cultists x23, 2 flamer- 112pts

-Cultists x23 2 flamer- 112pts

Total: 2001pts

 Robisagg wrote:

 Filch wrote:
Do the cultist from helcult get obj secured or count as troops?

IIRC yes, due to the fact they are still counted as troops.

No.

They are troops, but they do not have Objective Secured. That's a command benefit for a 'Combined Arms Detachment', which they're not part of. They're part of a 'Helcult Formation Detachment', which gets the command benefits Apocalyptic Fury, Living Idol of Chaos and Human Shields instead (which, let's be honest, are better).



List looks solid. My only comments:

Is Ld10 really worth it on the Havocs? I guess Veterans Of The Long War isn't exactly expensive, but how often do you expect to benefit?
Given the Human Shields rule, I'd either take a helbrute armed to advance on the enemy or I'd swap a cultist unit to stand off and shoot. Unless you're trying to get the Helbrute killed to benefit from Living Idol of Chaos, I guess.

locarno24 wrote:

 Robisagg wrote:

 Filch wrote:
Do the cultist from helcult get obj secured or count as troops?

IIRC yes, due to the fact they are still counted as troops.

No.

They are troops, but they do not have Objective Secured. That's a command benefit for a 'Combined Arms Detachment', which they're not part of. They're part of a 'Helcult Formation Detachment', which gets the command benefits Apocalyptic Fury, Living Idol of Chaos and Human Shields instead (which, let's be honest, are better).


List looks solid. My only comments:

Is Ld10 really worth it on the Havocs? I guess Veterans Of The Long War isn't exactly expensive, but how often do you expect to benefit?
Given the Human Shields rule, I'd either take a helbrute armed to advance on the enemy or I'd swap a cultist unit to stand off and shoot. Unless you're trying to get the Helbrute killed to benefit from Living Idol of Chaos, I guess.

Thanks for the clarification, looks like I'll be relying on the plague marines to snag objectives. Now, would it be more prudent to load the helbrute up with dual CCWs and have him stomp up towards something nasty?