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With the change to the vehicle damage table, I can see the argument for the Vanquisher over the Punisher (in 6th, all the Vanq had in it's favor was range; now it also has the only chance to cause an explosion). I'm personally a bit of a chicken, so I like the Vanquisher a little bit more, even though I know very well that the Punisher is deadlier.

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 tomjoad wrote:
With the change to the vehicle damage table, I can see the argument for the Vanquisher over the Punisher (in 6th, all the Vanq had in it's favor was range; now it also has the only chance to cause an explosion). I'm personally a bit of a chicken, so I like the Vanquisher a little bit more, even though I know very well that the Punisher is deadlier.

I'd say the vehicle damage chart changes hurt the Vanquisher more than helped it. Yeah, it's made it so that the Vanquisher is the only weapon that can blow up a vehicle (sans sponsons), but that's in a meta where there's really no point in trying to blow up vehicles anymore. It's so much easier, and usually much more reliable, to just glance a vehicle to death.

The Vanquisher can't do that, and with its gun being AP2 it's only getting an explodes result on a 6.

The Punisher was MUCH better in 6th; because it can ONLY glance though, the Vanquisher has gotten a bit closer in 7th. That's all I was saying with regard to that.

However, the bigger thing in favor of the Vanq is the 48" range difference. Having to be within 24" of the enemy is a legit concern, and since Pask will need to be your warlord to get PE, that makes losing him even more dangerous. I'm not say one is better than the other, I'm just saying that the Punisher is not CLEARLY superior.

Well, it can pen AV10-13, and it can no longer Explode those vehicles one time out of six, so....yeah, that is slightly worse than it was before.

I see. There was an overlap of a couple months with the new codex and 6th ed though, which is clearly what I'm referring to.

Anyway, my point is the range, so whatever to all of this.