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For those interested in this kind of stuff.

"Neanderthals may have co-existed with early humans for 5,000 years" - Rachel Feltman, 8/20/14 (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2014/08/20/neanderthals-may-have-co-existed-with-early-humans-for-5000-years/?hpid=z5)

We know that modern humans won an evolutionary race against our Neanderthal relatives, but exactly how and when did they leave us? According to a new study published Wednesday in Nature (described in the video above), the shift may have happened quite gradually.

Using recent advances in radiocarbon dating technology, the researchers dated remains found at more than 40 archaeological sites across Europe. By accurately dating the remnants of human and Neanderthal life, they've pieced together a more complete picture of the transition.

Around 45,000 years ago, the researchers report, humans started to appear in small clusters dotted around Europe. But gradually, the balance shifted -- and over the next 5,000 years, humans began to proliferate as Neanderthals disappeared. Instead of being quickly obliterated, the Neanderthals just became less common, and soon they were the species dotted around the continent.


Tom Higham and Katerina Douka selecting samples for dating. (Thomas Higham)
While some areas lost all Neanderthals within a few hundred years, it seems that others maintained small populations, even as early humans moved in. It's not news that humans and Neanderthals interacted (and probably even interbred), but scientists had no idea that some regions experienced so much overlap.

On the other hand, the new study seems to prove that while they spent a surprising amount of time in the same place, humans and Neanderthals shared less time together on the Earth overall. While some scientists have suggested that Neanderthals held out in Iberia until less than 40,000 years ago, the new study was unable to find any evidence of such a population. Instead, the authors report, the last Neanderthals slowly took up less and less of a mosaic culture spread across Europe, giving them plenty of time to exchange ideas (and genes) with our ancestors.


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That's kind of interesting.

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Cro-Magnon was always better than the Neanderthal anyway

   
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Just don't go sliding around them.

More seriously, the only new thing here is the use of different radiocarbon dating. The notion that neanderthals disappeared over time, either by interbreeding or slow eradication, is not new at all.

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If you are interested in this, here is an article that goes into more detail and is, IMO, better written: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/20/neanderthals-modern-humans-coexisted_n_5695276.html?utm_hp_ref=science



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I've always thought of this as one of those 'birds have some kind of common lineage with dinosaurs' kind of things. i.e. what was obvious to most just through observation has now been confirmed by science.

A Saturday night out in most cities in the UK would have confirmed the same thing.

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Perhaps. IIRC I think scientists believe that people of European descent generally speaking have about 2% Neandertal DNA.

I suppose what's most interesting here is the clarification of the timeline, and the possible implications of that.

That was something of a mystery before because the previous radiocarbon dating methods were less reliable.
   
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really good updated history of man kind that takes into account most of the latest discoveries.



 
   
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That is a cool video, thanks for posting.
   
 
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