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Why have I never used one before? They're amazing! I now have an extra Land Raider regular. Thoughts on best use? I'm thinking a Tac squad with a ML and a PG for objective taking/extra dakka

Doooont!!! Dont go for the Godhammer LRs. LRCs are where its at. In regular games, the Godhammer's loadout is just "schizoprenic". It cant decide if it wants to stay back and tankbust armour with its lascannons, or drive in and unload troops.


Unless you are making an armoured spearhead formation, then by all means go ahead. Then again, I'm a templar player so I love me my LRCs dedicated transports

Really? I really want to have him as a shooty, stockier rhino. I already have my LRC for my Deathwing CC and my other Deathwing are shooties who use the DW assault for the twin-linked deepstrike goodness. That and I want some more good shooties, as my friend runs a lot of DE vehicles.

For the price of a LR you get to fire
2 TLLC
3 TLHB

For 30pts more you can have 2x predators with
2 TLLC
4 LC

But if you really like the model then go for it. Just saying in my experience with LRs I dont field them as often as my LRCs (I have 7 of different variants, I'm a fan of the model). For tankbusting I just go Drop pod sternguard melta. Or drive up my LRCs multimelta.

I'm a big advocate of playing whatever models you want to play, but if we want to get realsies here we have to look at the facts.

You can either spend 420 points on a LR (4 HP) with Tac squad including ML and PG, or you can spend 480 points on 2x Predators kitted out with Lascannons plus the same tactical squad in a rhino, adding up to more than double the HP for only 60 more points.

Yeah I agree with robam. Armor saturation is a good way to go. Gives the opponent more targets to look at.

Right on, thanks for the advice guys. Out of curiosity, the DW rule to reroll penetrates, is that actually any good, or is that just a tacked on trait to justify the extra 30 points?

It is, especially with the new 7th rules.
Explodes? Nope! Weapon destroyed? Try again!

LR's are terrible as gun platforms. You pay a lot of points for the all-round AV 14 and the assault ramp.
So for firepower, Preds are better. LR are really just big,badass Razorbacks.

Also, what is everyones thoughts on DW Knights? I might be getting a good deal on some counts as DW Knights for like $20. (The models are pretty similar, its just the weapons that are wrong, 1 has the flail, 1 has the power mace, and the others have thunder hammers)

I personally like them, but in reality they are not that good.
They have one job - they are like a cannon you aim, pull the trigger and can be pretty sure what you aimed at is dead.

It really depends on what you play against. Non-PA armys can get creamed, CSM can get creamed but they suffer from the same issues as all foot-slogging assault units. They NEED a LR to do anything which makes you wonder if the cost of them is actually worth what they do.
But the official models are beautiful and they make a excellent squad for Belial to join, bringing him up to T5.

Yeah, that's kind of why I want them. They;d bring Azrael up to T5 too, no? And now to choke down that $60 price point :(

djz05 wrote:
Doooont!!! Dont go for the Godhammer LRs. LRCs are where its at. In regular games, the Godhammer's loadout is just "schizoprenic". It cant decide if it wants to stay back and tankbust armour with its lascannons, or drive in and unload troops.


Unless you are making an armoured spearhead formation, then by all means go ahead. Then again, I'm a templar player so I love me my LRCs dedicated transports

umm...what?

A Godhammer can move 6", fire the MM (if in range) at normal BS, then another TL-Las at normal BS due to PotMS at a different target, and the final Lascannon as snapfire, but re-rolling due to TL. If the MM is out of range (which is the case if your tank is in the backfield), it can move and fire both TL-Lascannons at normal BS. So no, a Land Raider at the back doesnt have to sit still to fire both its cannons.

Oh and then there's also its TL-HB.


Personally I think it can potentially do more damage than the Crusader with its pea shooters. The Crusader kills maybe 40 points of infantry each turn, while the Godhammer has the chance of blowing up a 100+ point vehicle.

I think the main reason for taking Godhammer Landraiders is the name. Godhammer. It's a shame they don't have extra special rules just because of that name.

Well the name isnt even legit. The only official one is Phobos pattern

Aben Zin wrote:I think the main reason for taking Godhammer Landraiders is the name. Godhammer. It's a shame they don't have extra special rules just because of that name.

Sir Arun wrote:Well the name isnt even legit. The only official one is Phobos pattern

“Godhammer" is the name of the pattern of lascannons. And does sound much cooler then “Phobos”

Whatever you want to call it, I like them. You might say they are schitzopharnic, I call them tactically flexible. Sure you pay points for abilities you might not be fully utilizing, but that’s hardly unique to the LR. But it’s the only core LR that feels like a MBT. The others are just glorified battle taxis. Not to knock them at that role, they do it well, but they don’t bring a whole lot more to the table. The Godhammers can reach out and touch someone pretty much anywhere, even on the move. And nobody likes eating LCs.

If you want to compare firepower from other sources, the LRC is what, half a tac squad in a TLAsC razorback? The LRR doesn’t have a good comparison, as we don’t get that level of burning anywhere else. It still remains by least favorite of the basic LRs. If you are in range of the flames, you are going to get charged by what’s inside. And if you are taking a LRR into battle, odds are you can kill what you are charging.

I think the LRC is a OK middle range choice. It’s guns have some reach, so it has presence on the table. While I generally have enough bolters, not every list does, and the guns have more internal synergy then LCs and HBs. And now that the Phobos is back down to 10 man capacity, the LRC’s ability to fit 5 termis plus the HQ is a major boon.

I'm generally taking my LR as a tank hunter/AP denier and my LRC as more dakka

My primary tactic is more just distraction. Yeah, blow my LR up, but while you were focusing on him, my devastastor squads pounded you and DW troops have just TL deepstriked right into your face.