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l2c wrote: Is there a reason they've more or less dropped the red&gold color scheme for CSMs, and decalsheets not having Khorne symbols on them?
I havent noticed this. The sheets I have at least have CS, Corsairs, and the core 9. They have god decals in equal amounts.
Mandragola wrote: The obliterator “mistake” is in the updated enhanced edition too, annoyingly. I though it might help clear things up but it doesn’t.
I thought the update would include all the Vigilus Ablaze stuff but it doesn’t. The new black legion and renegade stuff isn’t in there - just the datasheets. As such I can’t imagine why anyone would buy the update rather than VA. luckily for me it’s a free download for people with the electronic version.
It's only for new players essentially. If you have the original you won't get as much out of it.
I got the new 'dex because I found it really irritating having datasheets and points values thrown all over the place. It's a shame the codex doesn't include the Vigilus specialist detachments and renegade chapter stuff but I'm finding it so much handier for looking stuff up. And I'm a hardcover book geek, too.
Bharring wrote: At worst, you'll spend all your time and money on a hobby you don't enjoy, hate everything you're doing, and drive no value out of what should be the best times of your life.
Albertorius wrote: I received my Abaddon yesterday, and I must say that I am very, very impressed with it. Serious piece of engineering, and a very lovely model.
I can't remember if I posted it in this thread or not, but...
When you build Abaddon, if you want him to have the cape? Build the side with Drachnyen all the way up even if you are leaving the cape off for painting and DO NOT GLUE THE TROPHY RACK TO ABADDON. The cape has an attachment point on the trophy rack that makes it extremely difficult to refit it if the trophy rack is on and you've attached both shoulderpads to the cape.
Leaving the trophy rack, shoulderpads, and cape as one component for painting is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge timesaver and all of them can be pressurefitted to Abaddon when you're priming.
Hmmm, had no such problems myself. I glued the trophy rack on to the main model but did leave the cape seperate. The only piece of the cape I did not join up when painting it seperate was the tiny end piece that attaches to the shoulder piece. Totally agree on painting the cape seperately though, I also initially left him off the base, am happy with my effort.
Spoiler:
He looks great!
Yeah, the only reason I had issues was because I'd had both shoulderpads attached to the cape. I ended up having to remove the shoulderpad that connects to the right arm from the cape which solved the fit issue without any damage.
Figured I'd just make sure I shared that insight with anyone working on an Abaddon!
Ah, I see. The cape is a very snug fit so can see why you had an issue there. But it is one of my favourite miniatures to construct ever, an instant classic.
Sotahullu wrote: Although the Red and Gold color scheme was for Crimson Slaugter (pretty cool background) rather then World Eaters that has exactly same colour scheme.
I've always thought the color scheme for the chapter was just terrible:
GW's logic:
We've got
Red & gold fighty evil marines
Red & silver demon pact evil marines
Red & black & gold recently fallen, quickly corrupted evil marines
You know what we're missing? Red & gold fighty demon pact marines that have recently fallen and were quickly corrupted! That fills a necessary niche!
Albertorius wrote: I received my Abaddon yesterday, and I must say that I am very, very impressed with it. Serious piece of engineering, and a very lovely model.
I can't remember if I posted it in this thread or not, but...
When you build Abaddon, if you want him to have the cape? Build the side with Drachnyen all the way up even if you are leaving the cape off for painting and DO NOT GLUE THE TROPHY RACK TO ABADDON. The cape has an attachment point on the trophy rack that makes it extremely difficult to refit it if the trophy rack is on and you've attached both shoulderpads to the cape.
Leaving the trophy rack, shoulderpads, and cape as one component for painting is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge timesaver and all of them can be pressurefitted to Abaddon when you're priming.
Thanks for the pointer. I will definitely do that once it comes time to build my Abby.
Red Corsairs too, right? Sure, they have black mixed in, but it's still pretty close.
World Eaters - primarily Red with Gold/Brass accents Word Bearers - primarily a deep Red with SILVER accents Red Corsairs - Are both Red + Black in equal proportions, typically asymmetrically so, with Gold/Brass accents
Crimson Slaughter are neigh indistinguishable from World Eaters, aside from maybe a brighter red and more Gold over Brass.
It's safe to say, however that Chaos favor Red, Black and Gold in generally.
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Good thing the Thousand Sons swapped from Red to blue.
Though, there are warbands that have the original color scheme, and they look great. Easier to tell the difference between Rubic Marines and regular CSMs to be fair.
Redemption wrote: Or the Sorcerer is for a future Blackstone Fortress expansion or some other board game.
Or it's in wave 2 assuming gw release multipart obliterators/ mutilators, multipart venom crawler, maybe a set of greater possessed if we're lucky
I could see a second wave if those multipart kits appear in the other CSM factions like TS/DG when they inevitably end up featuring in the next campaign setting.
Can we take this discussion elsewhere now please? Try and keep this thread for any new News and Rumours.
Agreed. Y'all can beat that dead horse somewhere else.
As is, the last bits that we need are the Dark Apostle and Master of Executions.
I see the Dark Apostle as being really important and thematically awesome, but the Master of Executions seems to have come out of nowhere and... I dunno, I'm not impressed by the model or his rules.
The model looks like great converstion fodder for Exalted champs and Chaos Lords to me at least.
I'm contemplating using it for a biggerized Fabius Bile conversion.
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So no more csm preorders next week right? we're done for now.
I've been holding off on buying anything other than the limited time offers so I can buy everythign at once..
Roknar wrote: So no more csm preorders next week right? we're done for now.
I've been holding off on buying anything other than the limited time offers so I can buy everythign at once..
presumably. barring any suprises but I think they're done.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
All I need from the new Chaos Marine kits are the bits sites gettng them so I can buy some backpacks and a couple weapons/bodies.. dont need the full kits.
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Omega Marines (vanilla Space Marine): W-1, L-6, T-2
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porkuslime wrote: All I need from the new Chaos Marine kits are the bits sites gettng them so I can buy some backpacks and a couple weapons/bodies.. dont need the full kits.
shouldn't be tooo hard depending on what you're looking for.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Roknar wrote: So no more csm preorders next week right? we're done for now.
I've been holding off on buying anything other than the limited time offers so I can buy everythign at once..
GW on the matter, from today's Wargammer Community article:
On the Warhammer 40,000 side, we’re finishing up a massive Chaos Space Marines release with some Character models...
I think it's safe to say that's it.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
We have the codex out now, right? Any model would have been shown off by now, either through actual pics from the book or the rules. More chaos will come eventually (that sorcerer backpack) but for now, this release is at an end
What appears to clearly be a new chaos sorcerer backpack was shown in the rumor engine. Maby they planned for release him during this launch, but decided to hold him for a Wave 2. Or just as a filler release week over the summer or something.
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Gordon Shumway wrote: Does anybody know what the hole in the top of the venomcrawler is for?
I wanna say we'll find out when the full kit comes out. that said sometimes GW is odd that way, remember when Imperial Knights came out? they all had a hole that eventually saw a new kit that filled it with a carapiece weapon
I mean that said it ooks like thgere should be another connector for the "spikes" as it's kind of a structural weapk point as the model currently stands
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Gordon Shumway wrote: Does anybody know what the hole in the top of the venomcrawler is for?
Haven't a clue. When I was building mine I though it might be for the spiky rack but it is not. The rack itself also blocks it from having anything mounted in it too. It wasn't for the photographs of the GW one, I would have thought I did something wrong in building it. All I can think is if it gets its own, separate release in the future it might be another weapon hard point or something. Until then, I am glad it is largely hidden when viewed on the tabletop.
2019/04/18 07:39:44
Subject: Re:Shadow Spear / New Chaos Space Marines
So if Shadowspear is removed from shelves, I presume we're looking at a second wave of kits with the release of the plastic Obliterator and the Venomcrawler?
Well obviously. No kit stays forever as boxed set only. Might take a long especially with HQ's but everything comes separately at higher price while boxed sets goes away from giving stuff cheaply.