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Should I take a Rokkit launcha or a big shoota for my 20 ork boy mob or neither?

Usually neither. Usually my boyz aren't shooting at a target that needs the RL, and the big shoota is only marginally better than the regular shoota.

I like taking big shootas unless I want the mob to go vehicle hunting for some reason. 36" assault 3 is great for shooting at pesky heavy weapons squads while the boyz run across the field.

If they're slugga boyz who'll spend their games running then assaulting, then arguably either weapon is a waste of points as it will hardly be used.

But if they're shoota boyz and you expect them to do a few rounds of shooting, then maybe some more shootiness would be useful. Big shootas will do more anti-infantry damage, but rokkits will make heavy infantry and vehicles at least a little nervous.

I don't have the new codex so I don't know how many rokkits you can take, but I would assume taking 1 or even 2 would be pointless. At least the big shoota has the same targets as the rest of the unit.

Personally, I'd bring neither. Boyz are so bad at shooting, you'd be better off just running and assaulting.

That said, if you are running a shooty mob anyway, I'd bring Big Shootas. Why? Because MOAR DAKKA! You'll get 3 shots, equating to 1 more shot than you would have had previously per Big Shoota you put in the squad, and slightly more powerful too. Rokkits are best used on Tank Bustas because they get them by default. Only 1 or 2 rokkit shots isn't good, especially since what your Shoota Boyz will be firing at would be better off peppered with Shoota shots, and what your Rokkit Boy wants to shoot won't be hurt by the Shootas, so you are wasting the special weapon option in those cases.

TL;DR, if you're bringing the Dakka Boyz, take Big Shootas. Hands down.

I'll chime in with the neither-crowd. Rokkits don't have the same targets as boys outside of MEQ or MCs, and big shootaz don't do enough for their points.

I'd only buy them I have points to spare.

I alwayz take rokkits on my shootaboyz now. Some may argue that rokkits don't synchronise with shootas too well but the thing is that shootas are allready effective enough vs light infantry. While 2 bigshootas might offer 1-2 more casualties, it's not that significant other than rare cases of sniping out ig command squads and shooting at dark eldar vehicles. While rokkits add a ton more opportunities and are much more effective vs stuff like crysis suits and vehicles. Not everyone is t5+ eternal warrior.

Note that previously i used bigshootas and was alwayz satisfied with them. It's not just a few s5 shots. It's a few s5 shots and a few more regular shootas in range! Same with rokkits.

My logics is simple. I allready have lobbas that are so devastating, they completely demolish infantry and shootas can finish the job. So why not add in rokkits since there's never enough rokkits.

Get more Boyz instead

Okay done I will not take any big shootas or rokkits just an FYI I run sluggas.

 koooaei wrote:
I alwayz take rokkits on my shootaboyz now. Some may argue that rokkits don't synchronise with shootas too well but the thing is that shootas are allready effective enough vs light infantry. While 2 bigshootas might offer 1-2 more casualties, it's not that significant other than rare cases of sniping out ig command squads and shooting at dark eldar vehicles. While rokkits add a ton more opportunities and are much more effective vs stuff like crysis suits and vehicles. Not everyone is t5+ eternal warrior.

Note that previously i used bigshootas and was alwayz satisfied with them. It's not just a few s5 shots. It's a few s5 shots and a few more regular shootas in range! Same with rokkits.

My logics is simple. I allready have lobbas that are so devastating, they completely demolish infantry and shootas can finish the job. So why not add in rokkits since there's never enough rokkits.

Kind of agree here. I have so many places which could still hold more rokkits though (mostly battlewagons), that boyz have yet move to the top of the list.

I take the rokkits, a few str 8 pot shots at a vehicle can potentially wreck a transport so you can assault the occupants. Otherwise you have to assault the transport and worry about your PK getting an explosion.

And a potential MEQ wound at ap 3 can reduce the overwatch shots and the number of attacks in CC.

Rokkits, rokkits and more rokkits !!!

Orks need all the range anti armor they can get. Shoota boyz have enough anti-infantry with their shootas. Rokkits let them deal with different targets. Heck I throw in a mek with a rokkit or mega-blasta for 4 S8 shots.

Also any one who think orks suck at shooting , will be very surprise when they come across massed rocket fire when everything inthe army has at least 2+ of the things in each unit.

It depends on the role of the unit.

If the unit is just to Waaaaaagh across the board at top speed, rokkits or big shootas are a low priority on point usage.

If the unit is an objective camper, I'll give them the heavy weapons so they can't be completely ignored.

Previous dex i'd say you're an idiot for even considering rokkits, since it costs more than a bigshoota and odds are wont do anything. Now theyre the same cost, so its a tossup on usefulness. The random rokkit that connects pretty much guarantees a dead marine, since S8 and AP3 kicks their butt. Problem is the rate of fire is horrendous for a BS2 model. Ive been running nauts lately for the hell of it, and both of them usually land ONE rokkit the entire damn game (two each). bad luck yes, but the fact still remains..untwinlinked single shot on a crap BS is a big risk.

Which would you prefer, more wounds that pen nobody's armor (S5 AP5 3 shots) or a higher strength that pens all infantry armor but lousy odds to hit?

well, if shoota boy take a big shoota if infantry, or rokkit if tank hunting. if slugga boy, neither

 Jidmah wrote:

 koooaei wrote:
I alwayz take rokkits on my shootaboyz now. Some may argue that rokkits don't synchronise with shootas too well but the thing is that shootas are allready effective enough vs light infantry. While 2 bigshootas might offer 1-2 more casualties, it's not that significant other than rare cases of sniping out ig command squads and shooting at dark eldar vehicles. While rokkits add a ton more opportunities and are much more effective vs stuff like crysis suits and vehicles. Not everyone is t5+ eternal warrior.

Note that previously i used bigshootas and was alwayz satisfied with them. It's not just a few s5 shots. It's a few s5 shots and a few more regular shootas in range! Same with rokkits.

My logics is simple. I allready have lobbas that are so devastating, they completely demolish infantry and shootas can finish the job. So why not add in rokkits since there's never enough rokkits.

Kind of agree here. I have so many places which could still hold more rokkits though (mostly battlewagons), that boyz have yet move to the top of the list.

Yep, that's a matter of preference. My truck has a rokkit instead of big shoota too. And people shouldn't forget the psychological factor. Missile launchers are just more frightening than heavy bolters. So are rokkits more frightening than big shootas.

As for sluggaboyz, rokkits are clearly better than big shootas here. But i find it even better to leave them barebones cause unlike shootas they prefer to run and charge much more often.

Trukk rokkits are are free, I never leave without them

What if squad inside trukk have bigshota or alot of shotas still rokkits ?

I always say big shoota. why? few reasons

1. if you shoot a tank, good, you just wasted ALL THOSE SHOOTA SHOTS that could have targeted something else.
2. rate of fire- 3 shots is better than 1 hitting on 5s. (DAKKA DAKKA)
3. cuz orks like flashy guns that make loud noises lots of the time.

 raiden wrote:

3. cuz orks like flashy guns that make loud noises lots of the time.

Ya see, shoota boyz and rokkit boyz are totally different ladz. Shoota boyz pull da trigger and DAKKA-DAKKA-DAKKA. LOUD! GOOD! And rokkit boyz pull da trigger and...nofin'...nofin'...KABOOOM! LOUD! GOOD!

It's too easy to forget that most of the time you are driving that unit of boyz to a fight or an objective and then getting into an assault or going to ground on an object for the rest of the game.

20 Boyz certainly make a nice hiding spot for a nice weapon. The value of said shooting is too much in question though. If we could have six rokkit boyz in the squad or maybe a better weapon I'd think it was ok.

A nice unit might be a trukk with a rokkit, a boy in a boy squad with a rokkit, a mek HQ attached with a rokkit. Three rokkits out of a cheap scoring unit that can repair it's transport. Sounds nice, if you can hide it among scarier things in your army. Of course a squad of five tankbustas might do better.