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Hi Dakka people Darkhorse here. been a while since i made a post on here. I used to post army lists when the game was in 5th ed.

Now the game is in 7th ed and i want to know how many people think that with the new meta whether they believe that the Necrons really have what it takes to take on all the other armies now.
Before we were deemed broken due to tesla and our reanimation protocols.

So guys tell me what you think.

Regards Darkhorse

The only meta list that nercon use today is wraith spam and flier spam.

Wraith spam doesn't work because there's less monsters on the field now, so wraiths get gunned down easily by basic fire (as they always have)

Flier spam is still an issue of some sort, but only when objectives are the primary goal for the mission.

Of note is the transcendent ctan, though most people simply won't play with you and most tourneys don't allow it.

Aside from that, there's little wrong with necrons. It's easy to avoid mindshackle. Jinking fixing ghost arks are a problem though, when there's a large unit of warriors nearby.

 juraigamer wrote:
The only meta list that nercon use today is wraith spam and flier spam.

Wrong. That was true in 6th. The new standard Necron list in 7th edition is AV13 wall.

 juraigamer wrote:
The only meta list that nercon use today is wraith spam and flier spam.

Wraith spam doesn't work because there's less monsters on the field now, so wraiths get gunned down easily by basic fire (as they always have)

Flier spam is still an issue of some sort, but only when objectives are the primary goal for the mission.

Of note is the transcendent ctan, though most people simply won't play with you and most tourneys don't allow it.

Aside from that, there's little wrong with necrons. It's easy to avoid mindshackle. Jinking fixing ghost arks are a problem though, when there's a large unit of warriors nearby.

This mostly isn't true. AV 13 spam is huge for necrons now since the vehicles are so much more durable. A lot of people are taking warriors in ghost arks instead of fliers since the arks are objective secure in a normal CAD. Wraith spam is less popular now since we have Bargelords that can't join units of wraiths. Stormteks are becoming extremely popular as a result of vehicles becoming more durable. With seventh edition, being able to hold maelstrom objectives is a huge part of winning and having a lot of fliers and not a lot of units on objectives means a loss in a lot of cases.

This would be considered among the best Necron 1850 lists right now

2 x bargeLords with the usual wargear. Warlord has resOrb.

2 x 5 warriors in Ghost Arks (1 pulseTek in each)

3 x 5 warriors in Night Scythes (1 stormTek in each)

3 Annihilation Barges


Keep in mind though that the above list works best on a board with the usual amount of terrain. If the board is crowded with a lot of LOS blocking terrain then mixing in a spyder farm or wraith wings into the list become the best way to go. Also, on a crowded board, allying in the Ork BullyBoyz formation makes a very formidable list.

Given the current release schedule, Necrons will have a new codex within 4 months. Don't overthink things now.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Given the current release schedule, Necrons will have a new codex within 4 months. Don't overthink things now.

Indeed, things will change a bit with the release of a new Necron codex.

Well the idea was to give some inspiration to run them at current as I own 3 armies. Eldar, Chaos and Necrons. As you can tell Necrons are my favourite but of late the changes made like 6th editions big monsters and 7ths psychers kinda dampens the idea that Necrons are outdated I do like a bit of AV13 wall spam like the doomsday ark and barges but I also like utility units for example the tomb stalker (or spider) not sure which it's called.

Perhaps I'll stick to elder and chaos till Necrons rotate.

The latest rumours are that we'll get our new book at the end of the month.
They are surely not outdated, but most of the old units that were bad are still bad and most of the good units are still good.
Though I believe Tomb Blades got a gigantic buff with the scoring and Maelstrom-changes.

Thanks kangodo i now have an app to help with all the current lists and points and the app has taken 7th ed into account and the blades are in my list im hopefully looking to try them out this weekend i will let you guys know all armies and all reports so look to the reports section.

Kangodo wrote:
The latest rumours are that we'll get our new book at the end of the month.
They are surely not outdated, but most of the old units that were bad are still bad and most of the good units are still good.
Though I believe Tomb Blades got a gigantic buff with the scoring and Maelstrom-changes.

Not by the end of this month.
Indeed, Tomb Blades will eventually get a buff.
With RP they are a quite durable unit.

I get the fealing reanimation protocols will get hit with the nerf bat in the new dex. Pure speculation though.

NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
I get the fealing reanimation protocols will get hit with the nerf bat in the new dex. Pure speculation though.

I could image that it will be replaced by FNP.
But this would take a piece of Necron uniqueness away.

 wuestenfux wrote:

NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
I get the fealing reanimation protocols will get hit with the nerf bat in the new dex. Pure speculation though.

I could image that it will be replaced by FNP.
But this would take a piece of Necron uniqueness away.

I hope they don't take that rule away. It's so unique, I'd just hate to see it go! How could they really nerf it anyway? It's a 5+ to get back models at the end of the phase, right?

I remember the old codex with We'll Be Back! Oh those were the days. The only real way to beat necrons was to phase 'em out.

I would actually love that.
Too many complainers keep yelling this proposed change, but this would be an incredible buff.
Turn RP into FNP and they'd be much more durable.

 wuestenfux wrote:

Kangodo wrote:
The latest rumours are that we'll get our new book at the end of the month.
They are surely not outdated, but most of the old units that were bad are still bad and most of the good units are still good.
Though I believe Tomb Blades got a gigantic buff with the scoring and Maelstrom-changes.

Not by the end of this month.
Indeed, Tomb Blades will eventually get a buff.
With RP they are a quite durable unit.

It was a rumour when I said it

NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
I get the fealing reanimation protocols will get hit with the nerf bat in the new dex. Pure speculation though.

I don't see why people are saying RP should get nerfed, or expect it to. It's good, but not game breaking. In fact, focus fire a unit. Or, better yet, Sweeping Advance, in which we have absolutely no defense against, since we suck in combat. If they make us more durable (a.k.a Stubborn), then maybe tone down RP a little. Until then, the mechanic is just fine.

Because it's the 'Necron-Curse'.
It's not overpowered, but it is perceived as overpowered.

Many people think it's so overpowered, they'd prefer FNP.
But when you do the tactics, you will see that FNP is much, much stronger than RP except for S8/10-blasts.
And on characters with multiple wounds the FNP becomes ridiculous..

Don't forget that FNP:
-Is done during the "to wound-phase", so fewer losses in shooting and combat and thus a smaller chance to run away.
-Is applied three times if you put three wounds on a W3-character, unlike RP which is only done once.
-Having an army that has FNP 4+ (with a ResOrb) means you don't die half of the time. Not dying is much more beneficial than dying and getting back up.

The downside of FNP: Instant Death ignores it.
Wooptiedoo, ID ignores it. But that means you aren't using those S8-10 weapons against the AV13 spam, so you are still winning as a Necron-player.

If they turn Necrons into Nurglecrons, that would be stupid. Necrons are the undead in the 40k universe. Taking away RP would take away the thing that distinguishes them most from other armies (with the possible exception of Gauss).

Necrons are fine in the current meta. At some parts they are better than fine, as if there is an army that laughs at Imperial Knights it´s them. I´ve blown them to bits with 2 Crypteks at minimum ( requires luck ofcourse. )

Greatest units are CCB, Annibarges, Ghost Arks, Night Scythes and Wraiths.

You don´t actually need to spam wraiths, quite a few tourneys have been won with lists inwhich there´s a unit of 6 and no more ( mostly I´ve seen them used to tie down enemy shooting/some important unit or to race to objectives. ) A nice combo of note is also the Deathmarks + Despair Cryptek ( giving you a +2 Wounding AP1 ( or was it 2? ) flamer.

 krodarklorr wrote:

NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
I get the fealing reanimation protocols will get hit with the nerf bat in the new dex. Pure speculation though.

I don't see why people are saying RP should get nerfed, or expect it to. It's good, but not game breaking. In fact, focus fire a unit. Or, better yet, Sweeping Advance, in which we have absolutely no defense against, since we suck in combat. If they make us more durable (a.k.a Stubborn), then maybe tone down RP a little. Until then, the mechanic is just fine.

Heavy flamers or GK incinerators will decimate squads of warriors an RP wont help as there usually aren't any models left...I have had more than one experience with my warriors sitting in my AV13 only to be flamed out with multiple templates on TURN 1 Dreadknights 30" move flame dead!