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Acolyte + Storm bolter = 7 points each...

in an unbound army, imagine how much fire power you can bring onto the battle field?

with just 700 points you can have 100 storm bolters which is like 200 bolters.

This a good idea or bad one?

And when you finish converting all 200 of them, you'll run into a meta that won't play unbound.

In a bound army cant remember what its called (battle forged? or something) you can still have up to 78, surely that should be enough storm bolters to out shoot any other infantry at the same value?

Edit: Should be 72* instead of 78 as corrected by others (max no of acolyte is 12, instead of 13 which I have incorrectly remembered)

Dunno if it would be viable per se, but probably fun and/or hilarious. I'd try it by proxying with bottles caps before i put in all that effort on the modeling side though

Gazzadus wrote:
Acolyte + Storm bolter = 7 points each...

in an unbound army, imagine how much fire power you can bring onto the battle field?

with just 700 points you can have 100 storm bolters which is like 200 bolters.

This a good idea or bad one?

Before the GK/Inq Codex split, I always took 5 acolytes with SB in Chimerae (sometimes with crusaders or DCA to taste). 10 shots at 24" of S4 AP5 is not to be laughed at, even at BS3.

DoW

Gazzadus wrote:
In a bound army cant remember what its called (battle forged? or something) you can still have up to 78, surely that should be enough storm bolters to out shoot any other infantry at the same value?

Huh? Straight up bound, battle forged? Isn't that an unlimited number of primary detachments? We aren't talking tournaments here. So in the inquisitions case, and since you want to spam SB acolytes, that would be an Inquisitor and three squads each containing 12 acolytes. Repeat until you run out of points.

If it is just a limit of two though, that's only six squads of acolytes times 12 guys each which is 72 guys and 72 storm bolters. Which is still a crap ton. (I built 12 SB acolytes and that was enough for me!)

Inquisitorial Detachment has only 3 Elites slots. You'd need 2 Inq Detachs (so, another Inquisitor) to get 6x12 Acolytes

Massed storm bolters is good, but it is also very squish and limited in what it can hit.
IMO, going tactical is better. 10 with storm bolters and 2 weapon smiths. If you can get the extra range or rending, you're golden.
And you pick up a pair of lascannons/heavy flamers in every squad, so you're not totally defeated by the power of a rhino.

-Matt

And than you run into a couple of tanks that are gona tank-shock your guyz off the board in droves. This approach of taking a single unit and maxing it out is not only boring to play with or against, but also quite vulnerable to hard-countering and extremely tiresome to glue and paint.
Storm bolter acolytes are fine but don't take them to the max.

12 storm bolter acolytes is 84pts. They are excellent for their points

8 storm bolter acolytes, 3 plasma gun acolytes and a priest is 123pts. Is more versitile against more targets and is fearless (also buffs if assault becomes an issue). Very much worth the extra 39pts imo. And always get the squad a psybolt-assault cannon razorback - they are an absolute steal for what they cost!

 koooaei wrote:
And than you run into a couple of tanks that are gona tank-shock your guyz off the board in droves. This approach of taking a single unit and maxing it out is not only boring to play with or against, but also quite vulnerable to hard-countering and extremely tiresome to glue and paint.
Storm bolter acolytes are fine but don't take them to the max.

The thing is; they themselves will be backed up by tanks. Because they are so cheap they will most likely out number enemy infantry (while having storm bolters), at the same time having more then enough points to have other units to counter flyers and tanks, etc...


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Poly Ranger wrote:
12 storm bolter acolytes is 84pts. They are excellent for their points

8 storm bolter acolytes, 3 plasma gun acolytes and a priest is 123pts. Is more versitile against more targets and is fearless (also buffs if assault becomes an issue). Very much worth the extra 39pts imo. And always get the squad a psybolt-assault cannon razorback - they are an absolute steal for what they cost!

Wow, I never thought of psybolt-assault cannon razorback. Great idea!

I usually would think about a 2x heavy bolter chimera with psybolt, but I think its clear razorback gives superior firepower

12 storm bolter acolytes in a squad is nice.

10 storm bolter acolytes and two monkeys is far superior though.


The monkeys are not as cheap, but they throw random upgrades on your squads that can result in some terrfiyng combos (added range with rending for example makes a unit extremely lethal, while any of the defense boosts makes you not die like grots)
And they also give some decent anti-charge power, long ranged high S shots, and a good close-range tankbuster. they really cover all bases.

Everything you said is true. Of course it should be far superior as it's 84 points versus 140 points.

Taking a pure storm bolter force is a bad idea for the reasons discussed above.

Taking a mostly storm bolter force.... still probably bad.

They're a good unit, but like every Inquisition unit, are very specfic to a role. If you plan to advance on the enemy and play the close ranged firefight game with flamers and meltaguns, especially if buying transport vehicles, then take bolters; you save a couple of points a model and have essentially the same firepower after the first turn or two.

I wouldn't recommend Hotshot lasguns anymore because scions are so damn cheap and a scions allied detachment can be added to an inquisitor's army for peanuts if you want space marine murderers.

Stormbolters are best used in stand-off antipersonnel fire support units. My personal suggestion is to pair them with an Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor with Psyker, a Psyocculum, and three Servitors with Heavy Bolters.

If your opponent has a psyker, you have a lethal fire support team to chop up his unit. If he doesn't, you have a cheap psyker with prescience that means you'll be firing massed bolter fire twin-linked.