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 Ouze wrote:
I did like The Crow a great deal, even though it spawned many awful sequels. In fact, I can only think of a single super hero film that spun off a good franchise until the Christoper Nolan Batmans.

The Crow is a mixed bag for me. There are places that the movie just nailed it, and then there are places that it really missed the mark. IMO.

The Rocketeer is one of my faves in the genre.

I don't have a lot of faith in Iron Man 4.

 Frazzled wrote:
How? No one's said how.

We had terrorists and five rings in the first movie.
We had the mandarin and more pseudo terrorism (which turned out not to be) in the 3rd movie.
Help me out.

What, you don't think "Iron Man 4: The Do-Over" would represent good handling of a film franchise?

RDJ deserves...HALF for his role in keeping the entire Marvel enterprise afloat, IMO. Even the first Iron Man film was VERY by-the-book storytelling carried along by RDJ's charm. He was also the most central character in Avengers and helped carry that movie too.

Now maybe they feel things are established enough that they can jettison him. It'll be interesting to see where they go from here. My guess is that they'll retire Iron Man for a while until they're comfortable with rebooting it. Avengers seems like it may more-or-less follow the path in the original comics, with Iron Man, Thor, and Hulk leaving and being replaced by Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. Bucky Cap could come into play here too.

I'd also suggest that while Marvel is known for wanting to keep budgets under control, their actors are probably getting a healthy gross points figure. When big names sign up for popcorn films, usually some financial incentive is at work.

Wasn't really referring to those two so much as the surprisingly A-list supporting talent like Jackson, ScarJo, Redford, Cheadle, etc. It may not be a fat points figure at work, but clearly Marvel can be persuasive. Hell, they were flirting with Joaquin Phoenix for Doctor Strange. He turned them down, but that dance seemed to go on for quite a while, and it's really not something I'd expect Phoenix to entertain even a little.

There might be a coolness factor at work for the actors. Doing a superhero movie might be the new 'thing' in Hollywood. Still, they're professionals who could be doing other things, and any time spent on one project is time they don't get to spend on another.

 Paradigm wrote:
Speaking of which, I'm was really surprised and disappointed we didn't get to see in the three IM films, I'd take either over Whiplash or the butchery of AIM/Extremis/Mandarin.

Rourke's character was effectively a mashup of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo. Vanko was the original C.D.'s last name.