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Pasks warlord trait is old grudges. Pick a codex at the start of the game, all units from that codex you have preferred enemy.
A guy who was playing csm with a crimson slaughte detachment insisted that its a different codex....so no preferred enemy. But if that's the case then all the units from that book are also in the csm book.
So even though its a supliment it can work as its own codex....so which is it?

Utter nonsense.
Crimson Slaughter are Chaos Space Marines, so regardless of whether it's a supplement I'd still play it as Preferred Enemy: CSM. A supplement doesn't free you from that. Also, you can't use the Crimson Slaughter supplement without the Codex for Chaos Marines. He's cheating or just doesn't understand lol.

If it says codex, it's codex.

RAW there's no discussion on that.

Pask can pick Crimson Slaughter if he feels like it.

morgoth wrote:
If it says codex, it's codex.

RAW there's no discussion on that.

Pask can pick Crimson Slaughter if he feels like it.

You're halfway correct... Crimson slaughter says a codex chaos space marine supplement. Therefore it is part of, an extension of chaos space marine codex

tanker19 wrote:
Pasks warlord trait is old grudges. Pick a codex at the start of the game, all units from that codex you have preferred enemy.
A guy who was playing csm with a crimson slaughte detachment insisted that its a different codex....so no preferred enemy. But if that's the case then all the units from that book are also in the csm book.
So even though its a supliment it can work as its own codex....so which is it?

Small Rulebook, Page 126 - "In the case of codex supplements, the Faction of all the units described in that publication is the same as the codex it is a supplement of."

Crimson Slaughter Supplement, "Warbands of the Crimson Slaughter" section - "A Crimson Slaughter army is chosen using the army list presented in Codex: Chaos Space Marines."

So... it's a Chaos Space Marine Faction army chosen using the army list presented in Codex: Chaos Space Marines. Crimson Slaughter are definitely Chaos Space Marines and Preferred Enemy (Chaos Space Marines) would work fine against them.

Small Rulebook, Page 126 - "In the case of codex supplements, the Faction of all the units described in that publication is the same as the codex it is a supplement of." 

Crimson Slaughter Supplement, "Warbands of the Crimson Slaughter" section - "A Crimson Slaughter army is chosen using the army list presented in Codex: Chaos Space Marines." 

So... it's a Chaos Space Marine Faction army chosen using the army list presented in Codex: Chaos Space Marines. Crimson Slaughter are definitely Chaos Space Marines and Preferred Enemy (Chaos Space Marines) would work fine against them.

^^^ This.

Almost all instances of wording involving "codex" are now supposed to be written as "faction" right now.

Remind me to review the current wording for preferred enemy as well, wonder if they updated it to use the terminology of Faction.

JinxDragon wrote:
Remind me to review the current wording for preferred enemy as well, wonder if they updated it to use the terminology of Faction.

Small Rulebook, Page 169, under Preferred Enemy - "This rule is often presented as Preferred Enemy (X) where X identifies a specific type of foe."

Preferred Enemy (Chaos Space Marines) would identify Chaos Space Marines as the specific type of foe. We've already established that Crimson Slaughter are considered to be Faction Chaos Space Marines, so Preferred Enemy (CSM) would work against them.

Factions wouldn't be good in the wording, because you could just as easily have something like Preferred Enemy (Psykers), like the Culexus Assassin does.

Verified and... missed chance for them to use the Terminology they have created to make a whole bunch of rules less confusing. You do make a good point about them not being limited to just a single faction, I remember a certain unit of ours has had Preferred Enemy: Independent Character and the headaches that causes. Nor would it make the more pressing stuff clear either, Mixed Battle-Brother Units would still be a concern, but they could at least update Rules to match current basic structures instead of cut and paste jobs.