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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/14 19:08:37
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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Formation:
Grotesquerie
Urien Rakarth (warlord)
2x3 Grotesques (with rolls on table of awesomeness)
2 Raiders with night shields
Formation:
Scalpel Squadron
2x5 Wracks, each with Ossefactor
2 Venom transports, 2 cannons
Detachment: Real Space Raiders
Haemonculi, parasite kiss (had 5 pts left)
5 Mandrakes
3 Grotesques
Raider w/ night shields
2x5 Warriors (troop tax)
3x6 Reavers, each with 2 caltrops
3x12 beast packs (10 khymera and 2 beast masters)
Urien joins the Real Space Grotesques, to give them fearless.
Real space Haemonculi joins one of the Grotesquerie units to give those grotesques fearless.
Urien tries and stays center mass around reavers to bubble the pain, giving the packs and reavers FnP 6+ on turn 1, and 5+ on turn 2.
Mandrakes act an annoyance.
Scalpel Squadron looks for anything that might give up first blood and deep strikes in on it.
Turn 1, everyone jinks and runs at the enemy, Scalpels go for 1st blood.
Turn 2, survivors assault, army wide, everyone is feel no pain 5+, and the formations are fear and fearless.
Zero ability to kill AV14 (outside of stupid luck with Reavers, every 9th caltrop is a hull point), no way to kill flyers, so will ignore them.
Any chance it will work?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/14 19:09:12
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/15 13:05:21
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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I would cut the beast packs for haywire scourges. Give you some land raider options.
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" $@#& YOU! There are 3 things I want in a guy: Tall, Handsome, and plays Dark Eldar!"-every woman since
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/15 16:38:44
Subject: Re:[1850] - Pure DE
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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Cool list, looks like fun and super aggressive! I too would be worried about heavy armor, or even AV13. For instance, how would you take down a Knight? It's sad, but these are the things we need to plan for, at least in a competitive setting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/15 17:20:31
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Regular Dakkanaut
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60 points for heat lances in the reavers squad would be well spent.
The reavers have hit and run, they should get to use the lances as long as they are alive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/15 20:02:40
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I would drop the scalpel squad and the RSR Grotesques for another Grotesquerie. Grotesques are just so much better than Warcks in everyway. Personally I like to add an Aberration with Scissorhand for Rending just to help against Walkers and 2+ armour.
I would drop the Beastpacks. Grotesques are your AI assault you need a way to deal with Vehicles. Scourges woukd fit the bill and maybe a Razorwing or two to add AA and support AT. Automatically Appended Next Post: For instance:
Grotesquerie:
Urien 140
Grots: Aberration, Scissorhand: Raider: DL, NS 200
Grots: Aberration, Scissorhand: Raider: DL, NS 200
Grotesquerie
Haemonculus 70
Grots: Raider: DL, NS 180
Grots: Raider: DL, NS 180
RSR
Lahmian: 10
3 Mandrakes: 36
Warriors: 40
Warriors: 40
6 Reavers: 2 Caltrops 126
6 Reavers: 2 Caltrops 126
6 Reavers: 2 Caltrops 126
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Razorwing: DLs 140
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/15 20:18:21
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/16 01:13:51
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
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FlingitNow wrote:I would drop the scalpel squad and the RSR Grotesques for another Grotesquerie. Grotesques are just so much better than Warcks in everyway. Personally I like to add an Aberration with Scissorhand for Rending just to help against Walkers and 2+ armour.
I would drop the Beastpacks. Grotesques are your AI assault you need a way to deal with Vehicles. Scourges woukd fit the bill and maybe a Razorwing or two to add AA and support AT.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
For instance:
Grotesquerie:
Urien 140
Grots: Aberration, Scissorhand: Raider: DL, NS 200
Grots: Aberration, Scissorhand: Raider: DL, NS 200
Grotesquerie
Haemonculus 70
Grots: Raider: DL, NS 180
Grots: Raider: DL, NS 180
RSR
Lahmian: 10
3 Mandrakes: 36
Warriors: 40
Warriors: 40
6 Reavers: 2 Caltrops 126
6 Reavers: 2 Caltrops 126
6 Reavers: 2 Caltrops 126
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Scourges: 4 Haywire Blasters 120
Razorwing: DLs 140
Plain Wracks are lame, but how he has them kitted in a Venom with an Ossefactor, is a nice build. They will be great little First Blood thieves with that fleshbane AP2 gun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/16 07:24:14
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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That fleshbane Ap2 gun still only does 1 wound plus effectively d6 poison hits. Against an all mech list he can't get FB with the formation and has to deepstrike them in which is always a risk. You just get so much more from Grotesques.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/16 17:29:28
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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FlingitNow wrote:That fleshbane Ap2 gun still only does 1 wound plus effectively d6 poison hits. Against an all mech list he can't get FB with the formation and has to deepstrike them in which is always a risk. You just get so much more from Grotesques.
Actually, if anything else in the army pops a transport, then the wracks finish him.
What's I'm working on now is keeping the Scalpel and Grotesquerie, and squeeze in 6 units of 6 reavers (8 blasters, 4 heatlances, all with caltrops).
Leaves me 224 points for 2 troops and a HQ.
Given that I'm taking the scalpel, Grotesquerie and 6 units of reavers, what would you round at the list with?
I'm thinking 2x5 warriors, 2x raiders with lances, and adding lances to the grotesques raiders. Leaves 14 points, which would be a Lhamaia.
-Matt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/16 19:58:33
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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You need to throw in Animus just you know in case you supposedly get it and give your vehicles the chain snares to tank shock things at -1 LD.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/16 20:14:19
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Once you pop a transport that's FB Wracks then can't get it. 224 for HQ and 2 troops? Easy:
Lahmian 10
5 Warriors: Venom 2 x SC 105
5 Warriors: Venom 2 x SC 105
Still leaves you 4 points to blow on whatever you want.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/17 15:12:32
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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FlingitNow wrote:Once you pop a transport that's FB Wracks then can't get it. 224 for HQ and 2 troops? Easy:
Lahmian 10
5 Warriors: Venom 2 x SC 105
5 Warriors: Venom 2 x SC 105
Still leaves you 4 points to blow on whatever you want.
You'd go with 2 more venoms over 4 more dark lances on the transports?
Sadly, can't spend 4 points. Everything is at least 5. Automatically Appended Next Post: Hollismason wrote:You need to throw in Animus just you know in case you supposedly get it and give your vehicles the chain snares to tank shock things at -1 LD.
Throwing in the Animus is 80 points minimum, for at best about a 60% chance vs T3, 44% chance vs T4. 1 shot at BS7 (hits on a 2+, 1's re-roll and hit on 5+), and S4 means 3+ to wound vs T3. To me, the Animus looks like sucker bet. If the opponent is in cover, you're looking at a 40% chance, as low as 20% to kill a T4 model in 4+ cover.
Chain Snares look good on paper, but taking them would leave me with 204 points for an HQ and 2 troops.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/10/17 15:19:48
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/17 15:24:44
Subject: Re:[1850] - Pure DE
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
In the Ring of Debris Around Uranus
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It is a cool list, though I think it will not handle tanks or Super heavies well at all. If this is not your meta, then you are good. I also think having more Dakka and DLs would be good or even haywire. Cool list, but I do not think it will be very competitive. Good luck and cheers man.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/10/17 19:53:04
Subject: [1850] - Pure DE
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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No I'd go with your Raider Lance build. I assumed you'd have lances on the Grots Raiders anyway.
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