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Hello! I am interested in playing this for a small local tournament.

I know there will be imperial knights, forge world, white scars, the whole deal. No LoW or super heavies (other than the knights) are allowed.

Looking for critique!

Eldar CAD

Autauch, bike, fusion, lance, mantle 145
Dire Avengers (5), Serpent with scatter, holo, cannon 210
Dire Avengers (5), Serpent with scatter, holo, cannon 210
wraithguard (5) 160
serpent scatter, holo, cannon 145
wraithknight 240

DE CAD

Archon, blaster, haywire grenade, portal 115
warriors (5), blaster, venom, splinter cannon 120
warriors (5), blaster, venom, splinter cannon 120
razorwing, cannon, lances 150
ravager, 3 lances 125
ravager, 3 disint 110


Archon and wraithguard deepstrike for Anti Armor.

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Killer Klaivex




Oceanside, CA

What's the job of the Archon and Autarch? You've got 260 points in characters who look out of place.

Archon doesn't have any friends that want to drop in with him, Autarch does bring enough pain to go solo.
Autarch with reavers is pretty good, Archon with a good number of anti-tank is pretty good.

I'd either drop the archon for Lhamaia, or drop wraithguard for a big unit of firedragons. If you go fire dragons, take a raider as a transport. 1 Haywire shot and 10 meltagun shots (fast shot exarch), will wreck just about anything, and then you're 3+ jinking to survive for a 2nd volley.

I'd swap out one ravager for Reavers, and stick the Autarch in with them.

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Ontario, Canada

He said right in his post that the archon is dropping with the wraithguard to take out armour.

Autarch is for reserve rolls to ensure the Wraithguard/Archon and the flyer arrive on time. Aside from that he's just a regular mantle autarch with a standard fusion gun/ laser lance loadout that harasses backlines and cleans up leftovers, with the mantle to give him a 2+ re-rollable cover save. Since he's on a jetbike he can go snag uncontested objectives throughout the game. This is a standard loadout for Autarchs used in many lists with reserves. It works.

I do agree with swapping the wraithguard for fire dragons and a transport, though. You don't necessarily need 9 of them, but they do seem like the better choice. Also being able to split off from the Archon and utilize battle focus might help you reach a second target.

If you want to go with Reavers instead of the Mantle, you'll have to get a lot of reavers for it to be worthwhile, and you won't be as survivable. You'll also be susceptible to morale checks from shooting. However Instead of having a model that flies around harassing and cleaning up, you'll have a unit of higher target priority that can deal some pretty good damage. If you've got points to spend, it could be worth it.

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Chicago, Illinois

That Autarch would be wicked in a Reavers squad he's already on a bike and the Reavers are freaking awesome.

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Agile Revenant Titan






Austin, Texas.

Wraith guard would be much better exchanged for 7 fire dragons. MUCH MUCH better at taking out imperial knights and the like. Battle focus around there ion shield and light them up with 7 melta shots.
Cant recomend mantle autarch, much to easily killed in combat. I prefer the mantle seer.

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I like the laughingtarch as an harassment unit. However he needs target saturation to work. He needs to be the unit the enemy can't afford to target because more pressinv issues ate presented. Also I just don't rate Ravagers in this edition, just too expensive drop them both for a 2nd Knight. This does 4 things. Firstly you are not spending points on inefficient units. Secondly you're giving yourself redundancy and duel threat on the Wraithknights. Thirdly you're improving your AT. Finally you're upping the pressure units to help the Autarch with target saturation.

Personally I prefer Fragons in a Raider as WWP deepstriking or Scytheguard on foot. Fragons in a Raider allows you to avoid Imp Knight shields without having to get out of your transport. Which still has a 3+ jink (though is admittedly only AV10 opened topped).

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