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Ultramarines
HQ- Calgar in TDA = 285
5x Honour Guard in Drop Pod = 170
ML2 Librarian in TDA with storm shield and force axe = 125

Troops- Tactical Squad with flamer, missile launcher and Rhino = 195
Tactical Squad with heavy bolter, flamer and Rhino = 190
Tactical Squad with meltagun and combi-melta and Rhino = 125

Elites- Terminator Assault Squad with 5x TH/SS and LRC = 475
5x Sternguard Veterans in Drop Pod with heavy flamer, 2x combi-plasma and 2x combi-melta = 205

Heavy Support- Devastator Squad with 2x lascannons, missile launcher and plasma cannon = 140
Centurion Devastator Squad with 3x grav-cannons = 250
Vindicator = 125

Astra Militarum
HQ- Knight-Commander Pask in Leman Russ Punisher with heavy bolter sponsons and Leman Russ Exterminator = 360
Priest = 25

Troops- Infantry Platoon
PCS with 2x plasma guns and lascannon = 80
2x Infantry Squad with 2x autocannons = 120

Heavy Support- 2x Wyverns = 130

The Priest will be put in the Drop Pod with Calgar, or I'll scrap Calgar and the Honour Guard, and instead replace Calgar with Captain SmashFether, and put him in the LRC with the Priest and Assault Termies. The Infantry Squads can camp behind and the Ultramarines Heavy Support units can target Ork Trukks. The Wyverns can bombard the small ork units camping on objectives.

Any comments?

Please, anyone?

I dont play marines..but I am an ork player and this list would do very well against my greentide army. I would be more tempted to make a change where you could add another vindicator. Pretty scary to run my tide straight at 2-3 vindicators..

I also think the AM-SM really grants you the benefit of having both, somewhat armored infantry but also pushes your model count higher by having the platoon of guard.

If your opponenet style favors a couple MANz missiles (3 meganobz in a trukk) or more vehicle heavy list then the autocannons should tear up some trukk armor. Watch out for a blitz-brigade formation...5 scouting Battlewagons filled to the brim with boyz, meganobz, tankbustas and a lukky stikk warboss...

Hope you have fun. Orks are great to play as but also against. Hope a more seasoned marine player can help with the list.

No MANZ in a Trukk, but there will be a unit of Nobz with powerklaws and Grotsnik, with a Warboss with Lucky Stikk in a battlewagon. I don't think Scouting Battlewagons will be a thing for them!

Hmmm.. why he would have a warboss with Da lukky stikk without Mega armor.. is BEYOND me. i would venture to guess the warboss and his nob buddies will be in MA. If not... The best he can get in in terms of armor is 4+ save and a 5+ FNP.

Yeah. That's it. Only 'eavy armour. And a painboy. And DLS.

Not optimal for orks, but still a potent combat machine... Because it isn't 2+ focus all your fire and they will fall

So, Marine players out there, would you advise swapping Calgar and the Drop Pod Honour Guard for a Captain with Thunder Hammer, AA and Shield Eternal and something else?

The list seems fine against an ork list, but the unit in question is over 400pts... Maybe swap him for the captain and an additional vindicator or tfc. Any thoughts on air or aa? 2 storm talons or a storm raven or quad gun.

I'm not expecting any AA, but I could use a Stormtalon or two with skyhammer missiles.