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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/16 03:30:54
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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I thought this would be a fun formation combination.
Scalpel Formations
2 Wracks
2 Venoms
Total 230
Formation
Dark Artisan
Haemonoculus w/ Nightmare Doll , Flesh Gauntlet, Webway Portal ( Warlord )
Talos w/ Twin Linked Heat Lance , Ichor Injector
Cronos
Total : 375
Formation
Corpsethief Claw
5 Talos
2 Ichor Injectors , 2 Heat Lances
Total : 630
Primary Detachment Dark Eldar
HQ
??????
Elites :
I want to take Mandrakes here but am unsure, what size.
Troops
5 Warriors w/ Blaster (105)
Venom w/ Splinter Cannons
5 Warriors w/ Blaster (105)
Venom w/ Splinter Cannons
Fast Attack
Razorwing w/ Night Shields, 2 Necrotoxin Missiles, Splinter Cannon, Dark Lances 165
6 Reavers w/ 2 Caltrops , 2 Heat Lances 146
Aegis Defense Line with Quad Gun (70, I think)
Total : 1826
Possibilities
2 Medusa
Venom w/ Splinter Cannon (115)
Honestly not sure where I am going with this basically I want to keep the top 3 formations because they generate a great number of Victory Points , D3 for the Scalpel for First Blood , 1 VP extra for the Talos squad when it kills a unit in combat.
I've got most of the army , but meh wanted to see peoples opinions until I invested in that many Talos, although their easy to scratch build somewhat.
I also thought of just taking a lot of Mandrakes instead of the Scalpel Squad and then maybe taking Urien or something boost up with his ability to give them 1 turn higher so they've got feel no pain.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2014/11/16 04:09:27
If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/16 05:06:27
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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I want to like the scalpel, but D3 instead of 1 for first blood is kind of a lot for 230 points.
How about...
Haemonculus as HQ.
Dark Artisan, Haemonculus, 5&4 Grotesques.
Drop defense line and skip mandrakes.
That gives you 2 fearless units of buffed Grotesques, a buffed unit of Talos/Cronos/warlord, and the blob of 5 Talos.
That's a very tough DE army coming at you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/16 05:09:13
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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How are these changes?
Grotesquirie : (525)
Haemonoculus w/ Sump , Fleshgauntlet
4 Grotesques w/ Abberation
Raider w/ Aero Sails
4 Grotesques w/ Abberation
Raider w/ Aero Sails
Formation
Dark Artisan
Haemonoculus w/ Nightmare Doll , Flesh Gauntlet, Webway Portal ( Warlord )
Talos w/ Twin Linked Heat Lance , Ichor Injector
Cronos
Total : 375
Formation
Corpsethief Claw
5 Talos
2 Ichor Injectors , 2 Heat Lances
Total : 630
Detachment
HQ
Lhaemen x 1 (75)
Venom w/ 2 Splinter Cannon
Elite
3 Incubi w/ Klaivex <- This is a really crazy good unit with the Haemonoculus from Grotesquirie
Venom w/ Splinter Cannon (135)
Troops
Kabalite Warriors x 5 (40)
Kabalite Warrirors x 5 (40)
Fast Attack
Razorwing w/ Twin Linked Splinter Cannon , Dark Lances 165
Total : 1985
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/11/16 16:12:39
If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/17 00:15:01
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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You got 15 points, swap lhaemen for medusa.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/17 02:59:42
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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True although I need to buff my Warlord in the Dark Artisan formation.
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/18 04:45:12
Subject: Re:[2000] - Dark Eldar - MY LIST IS FIGHT
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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FINAL FORM
Formation
Dark Artisan
Haemonoculus w/ Nightmare Doll , Perverted Panacea, Syndriqs Sump, Vexxator Mask, Flesh Gauntlet, Webway Portal ( Warlord )
Talos w/ Twin Linked Heat Lance , Ichor Injector
Cronos
Total : 415
Formation
Corpsethief Claw
5 Talos
2 Ichor Injectors
Total : 620
Real Space Raiders Detachment
HQ (10)
1 Lhaemen
Elite
Troop (210)
Kabalite Warriors w/
Venom Cannon x 2
Kabalite Warriors w/
Venom Cannon x 2
Fast Attack
Razorwing w/ Splinter cannon, Dark Lances, 2 Necrotoxin (150)
Razorwing w/ Spinter cannon, Dark Lances, 2 Necrotoxin (150)
6 Reavers w/ 2 Caltrops, 2 Heat Lance (146)
6 Reavers w/ 2 Caltrops, 2 Heat Lance ( 146)
3 Reavers w/ 1 Caltrop, 1 Heat Lance , (73)
3 Reavers w/ 1 Caltrop , 1 Heat Lance , (73)
Total : 1993
I think that's the final list I'll try to build.
The Warlord is the Haemonoculus , who is pretty close to being almost indestructible, Vexxator mask gives -5 to initiative to anyone who's foolish enough to challenge him, 4+ to wound anything and 6s ID, he's got 3 + FNP, and automatically ignores the first instant death, plus 4+ It will not die. He's also got rage.
It's also got enough target saturation that you'll want to focus on the Reavers etc.. but if you do you ignore the immediate threats of that Talos formation and the Dark Artisan which is such a heavy build.
Everything has Heat Lances just because it's needed to deal with Transports like Wave Serpents.
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2014/11/18 05:47:44
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/18 12:04:06
Subject: Re:[2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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If you find yourself needing some extra points you can drop some Heat Lances off the Reavers. With your squads that will be more on the front lines and assaulting you will want to Jink for that 3+ cover save and the Heat Lance will become ineffective.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/18 14:44:20
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The hammy in your Dark Artisan formation can't be your Warlord as he isn't a character in your primary detachment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/18 21:14:38
Subject: Re:[2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
Denmark
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You should really try to scrounge up the 25 points to get the Cronos a Spirit probe.
Upping everybodys FNP that's within 12" of it is a really sound investment.
Also, where does it say that the formation hammy cant be the warlord?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/18 21:25:50
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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He can. You can pick him as your warlord as that Formation Detachment would be your primary, it's a CAD. Remember the supplement and the codex are the same FACTION, you in fact cannot have an ALLY detachment that is Dark Eldar. I dunno why people think that..
WIth corrections made
Formation
Dark Artisan
Haemonoculus w/ Nightmare Doll, Syndriqs Sump, Flesh Gauntlet, Webway Portal ( Warlord )
Talos w/ Twin Linked Heat Lance, Ichor Injector
Cronos Spirit Probe
Total : 430
Formation
Corpsethief Claw
5 Talos
2 Ichor Injectors
Total : 620
Real Space Raiders Detachment
HQ (10)
1 Lhaemen
Elite
Troop (210)
Kabalite Warriors w/
Venom Cannon x 2
Kabalite Warriors w/
Venom Cannon x 2
Fast Attack
Razorwing w/ Splinter cannon, Dark Lances, 2 Necrotoxin (150)
Razorwing w/ Spinter cannon, Dark Lances, 2 Necrotoxin (150)
6 Reavers w/ 2 Caltrops, 2 Heat Lance (146)
6 Reavers w/ 2 Caltrops, 2 Heat Lance ( 146)
3 Reavers w/ 1 Caltrop , (63)
3 Reavers w/ 1 Caltrop , (63)
Total : 1988
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I feel pretty good about this list, 5 Talos are a huge beat stick and there's not much that can take that unit it out in one go. Plus if the Warlord is within 12 they reroll 1s for FNP plus if the Cronos is with in 6 you get 4+ FNP.
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This message was edited 5 times. Last update was at 2014/11/18 21:39:10
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/20 00:49:47
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Sinewy Scourge
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Formation has to be secondary as stated above.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/11/20 04:18:32
Subject: [2000] - Dark Eldar - Fun with Formations!
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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No it doesn't otherwise you wouldn't have the option to make the guy your warlord to begin with, like that's just literally in the formations rules and rules for the army. In fact you can not take a Formation and then take an Allied Detachment of the same faction, you have to take a normal detachment. It cannot actually be a allied detachment as this is against the battle forged rules.
Formations are detachments, you just pick which detachment has your Warlord in it and that becomes your primary detachment, but if you wanted to take another detachment it could not be a ally detachment.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/11/20 04:24:38
If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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