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So killteam, I've found, is really good fun. But I've also found it a bit frustrating - I see these cool units in my codex's but I have to buy the minimum unit to get them, and that eats into a lot of my points. for example, necrons could take a unit of lychguard, who would be quite good in killteam with some supporting fire - but the minimum squad uses all the points.

So I've had the idea knocking about in my head - Why not make killteam smaller, and have individual models bought rather than the whole unit. there are some balancing things to address, but here's a start:

The basic gist of it so far:

the points are 150, and the game uses that standard force organisation chart, minus the HQ slot: 2-6 troops, 0-3 elites, 0-3 fast attack, 0-3 heavy support.

The player buys individual models from a unit available to the slot - This model can only take equipment that it would have had access to.

for example, an ork player can bring an ork boy, equipped with a big shoota, for 11 points. this uses a single troops slot.

Multiple Wargear:
In the setting of this game, equipment is sparse. An army may not contain more than 2 pieces of identical upgrade gear.

For example, you can bring 6 space marines and 3 devastators, with their standard equipment of boltgun, grenades etc. However, between them they could not take more than 2 of the same special weapon, EG plasmaguns.

Armour, wounds etc:
No models with more than 3 wounds, a save of 2+ or an armour value totalling more than 33 can be taken (like normal kill team). No psychic powers may be used (if desired, psykers can be brought, for whatever reason you have...)


This will be used in a campaign, so as people win battles they can start using specialists, and their warlord will level up and gain some stat increases and a warlord trait. The general plot is that the players have crashed on a warp-magnet planet, which has been sucking things out of the warp for thousands of years, and they are trying to find provisions and escape, whilst trying to survive each other and the mysterious planet itself... so each week one or two players will have a game with a special mission, where they're against the campaign organiser (me) trying to get supplies or send out a message whilst fighting off zombies or tyranids, that sort of thing. meanwhile everyone else will be fighting over tiles on a planetary empires board.

My group did something similar for a large scale map campaign. Basically, for the Kill Teams the following rules applied:

250 points, half must be from Troops, half can be from Troops or Elites.
No more than 3 models on 40mm bases, nothing on larger bases.
Squads that did not meet codex minimum could not purchase upgrades. (For example, if you bought a 4-man Tac squad, you could not take any upgrades, you must have 4 Tac Marines + Sgt).

In "regualr games" your entire Kill Team functioned as a single unit (even if it was composed of multiple units). My Kill Team (as a Nid player) was a Venomthrope, Broodlord, and some Genestealers. Nids had a perk where every "regular" game they won, participating parts of the army gained points - Kill Team got an extra Troops (25mm only) model. I just kept adding Genestealers.

Or you could use the Herald of Ruin Killteam ruleset?

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Or you could use the Herald of Ruin Killteam ruleset?

http://heralds-of-ruin.blogspot.com/p/kill-team-rules.html in case you're curious. Basically exactly what you're describing.