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Please post your answers here. 1850 points limit.
Much appreciated
edit: forge world UNITS*

none.

If I were playing the only thing I'd ban would be titans and the like; the game-breaking superheavies, because they can skew entire games in their favor just by being there, and without a hard counter they are too powerful. If 40k used a dual list format similar to WMH this could maybe be alleviated as you could have one list designed to deal with them, but in a one list, take all comers approach they are too far ahead on the power curve to make things have even a semblance of balance.

I can only say i've seen how a 8 Turbo-Laser Chaos Reaver with Mark plays and it's not nice....

Haven't seen it in play since 7th Ed. nerfed the D though, but it's probably still just as OP.

A Reaver with a more diverse load-out might not be as bad, so i wouldn't just say "Ban Reaver Titans". So no, probably would not ban anything either, but if you did want to restric some Death Star units out there, go for it... wouldn't say Forgeworld Units are the worst...

If Eldar and the various cheese-stars in vanilla 40K are allowed in this tournament, then the answer is none.

Forgeworld units wish they could be as blatantly broken as vanilla 40K.

Only Titans and the likes, nothing else. The "normal" units are almost all nicely balanced, as BlaxicanX already said.

I would simply ban titans. Everything else is pretty killable.

Yeah I think "forge world" is the wrong category here, as the lines have gotten pretty blurred with escalation and the transcendant c'tan (for example) is not forgeworld.
The biggest factor is what the players want, and how big the tournament is; in both number of games and people. For me personally, the smaller the tournament the more restrictive I would be, simply because you are less likely to find players and lists that will punish someone for throwing all their points into a titan. There is a place for both kinds of tournaments and both can be fun, so it's really up to you how you want to run it.

Here are 3 ways to ban stuff:
1. No superheavies/gargantuan creatures (knights y/n?) - this still allows codex LOW like Logan and Draigo). Alternatively you can do "No LOW except for codex characters"
2. No specific unit type (like titans)
3. Nothing on a specific list. Usually this includes titans, the transcendant c'tan, and sometimes certain ignores cover low AP stuff.

For 1850, assuming your attendees will be good with LOW I would just ban titans and the c'tan.

Thanks for the answers, my main dillemma was the Iron hands spartan assault tank with melta immunity with techie who repairs it on 3+


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we weren't planning titans in the first place

ThatSwellFella wrote:
Thanks for the answers, my main dillemma was the Iron hands spartan assault tank with melta immunity with techie who repairs it on 3+


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we weren't planning titans in the first place

Very hard to kill but it hardly has a huge damage output.

Personally I'd put the limit on the number of D plates the unit can put out a turn rather than actual named units.

As above. And ranged D >>>>> Close combat D as well.

Banning superheavies, when the vast majority are mediocre at best is the wrong way about it.

Ban specific models, not categories.

Anything over 375pts. Keeps the points meaning something that way but still gives wiggle room.

WayneTheGame wrote:
If I were playing the only thing I'd ban would be titans and the like; the game-breaking superheavies, because they can skew entire games in their favor just by being there, and without a hard counter they are too powerful. If 40k used a dual list format similar to WMH this could maybe be alleviated as you could have one list designed to deal with them, but in a one list, take all comers approach they are too far ahead on the power curve to make things have even a semblance of balance.

i agree with this multi list idea a ton, In war machine it works great, you abuse your good skew list and then when you've placed high enough your list locked with the less good one,


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with certain restrictions on how much of what can be in both lists combined it would force balanced game play by not sticking all your eggs in one basket.

Super-heavy walkers, gargantuan monstrous creatures, and anything with a D weapon.

Same thing I'd ban from GW units.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Super-heavy walkers, gargantuan monstrous creatures, and anything with a D weapon.

Same thing I'd ban from GW units.

Do you ban Sanctic powers too?

Because there is a ranged D power there.

Anything with experimental rules. That's all really

ThatSwellFella wrote:
Thanks for the answers, my main dillemma was the Iron hands spartan assault tank with melta immunity with techie who repairs it on 3+


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we weren't planning titans in the first place

It just slaps of an arbitrary division based on an understanding of power which isn't reflected in the rules. Banning such a unit as that spartan tank, but leaving waveserpents as normal? I know which is better for the points...

I mean, has anyone ever actually proven that army lists can be used which are either pure FW or extremely heavily use FW rules, which is decisively more powerful than Codex only lists? Do these apparently over powered FW units really dominate the tournament scene? If Forgeworld rules are so over the top, why don't they dominate it?

So sure, there are powerful FW units in the same way that there are powerful Codex units. Going through with a fine tooth comb is based on a faulty (and one-sided) logic. Better to ban the titans, or house-rule rerollable 2++ saves, or straight out ban FW entirely on the grounds that too few people know it well enough.

 Grey Templar wrote:

Do you ban Sanctic powers too?

Because there is a ranged D power there.

I don't actually ban anything, the question posed was "what would you ban".

Also, I wouldn't care about Vortex.