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 Flinty wrote:
And who knew that US military mothballing procedures are sufficiently robust to allow complex aircraft to be unboxed ready to fly hundreds/thousands of years after the apocalypse. BE is sooooooo bad.


Reminds me of the Battleship film where a decommissioned warship is brought back online by something like 10-20 people (half of which are old and retired) and is not only fully operational but capable of firing because for some reason they carried all live ammunition on the decommissioned warship.

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Yeah, but those scenes in Battleship Effing ROCK, so it gets a pass.

Also the ship in the real world is still taken out for excursions once in a while, so taking it out on the seas isn’t inherently daft.

Plus the old boys clearly having a great time are real Navy Vets, clearly having a great time.


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The film is daft. It has many flaws. But it has some serious high points.

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It’s basically the closest thing to the Thunderchild scene from War of the Worlds committed to celluloid that I can think of. Also, it’s mentioned, albeit fleetingly, that they scraped together what ammo they could. Not a great answer sure, but an answer.

I particularly enjoy how the young ‘uns take their cues from the old boys.

And they actually, For Reals, took the USS Missouri out for these scenes.

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 Lathe Biosas wrote:
It was also the film that gave us James Cameron... and Roger Corman almost fired him.

So... just so I can understand... Rebel Moon [IS/IS NOT] better than Last Jedi/Rise of Skywalker.


Given that your view of Rise of Skywalker markedly differs from MDG's, and congratulations for being on the right side of history, by the way, I'll reply to this even though my answer is in the last post already. But I'll expand on it.

I've been reasonably positive about Rebel Moon from the beginning, though a good few things didn't work for me in the original release. People were certainly justified to rag on the movies as there was plenty wrong with them. Plus, Snyder's way of doing things isn't for everyone.

Me, I thought it was good for a laugh, being both bad and Snyderfically stylized. Definitely not good movies, but entertaining if you go into them with the right mindset. I wouldn't say the same thing about the Star Wars sequels, mostly because VIII and IX had serious writing and continuity deficiencies.

I found the director's cuts of Rebel Moon to be an improvement primarily in storytelling, which was the exact thing they were lacking in the first place. If coherent writing is something you took exception to in Star Wars and you don't mind Snyder's overdone, epically epic style with extra doses of epically epic slow motion, I suspect you may find Rebel Moon to be solid entertainment.

I dug up my initial impression of the first movie's director's cut, if you're interested in a few extra points. It has one or two very mild spoilers. Nothing significant.

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 Geifer wrote:
I watched the first movie now. It's an hour or so longer but aside from maybe two longer sequences doesn't feel like it added extra stuff. Rather it's expansion on existing story elements and a few small detail changes.

The standout addition is the opening sequence. The original opening narration that tells us that the bad guys are Space Nazis is dropped in favor of a lengthy sequence that shows the bad guys do Space Nazi things. I much prefer this version as it gives you time to take things in instead of just dumping the information on you to get on with the action.

This is a theme throughout the director's cut, really. Even though it's markedly longer, the time is used to expand scenes, add character interaction and world building, and generally improve the flow of the story that is pretty much unchanged from the butchered kiddie version but comes across far more coherently because of the changes and additions.

As an example of small changes that I like just because they give context, the priest dudes that pretty much just existed as WTF set dressing in the butchered cut don't have that much extra screen time, but we actually get to see them go around doing priesty stuff. They're now telling us something about the world. There are a few little things like that in the director's cut which flesh out the characters and setting.

Storytelling is similarly improved. For instance Kora's ship that was previously only introduced in the second movie is now set up in the first one, with the side benefit of showing that the villagers have their own parts to play and don't just get to do anything when the sevenish samurai are around. It makes the world richer and sets things up for later, which isn't something the butchered version did very well.

Basically the directors cut has coherent storytelling while the other version just strings scenes together with no regard for how they fit together as a whole. Granted, there's a little bit of exaggeration for effect in that observation, but while I had trouble with the original cut, I actually quite enjoyed the extended version. There's no question that it's the better cut, but I think it genuinely elevates the movie to another level.

So here we are. I now like Rebel Moon. Sue me.

Oh, and also, since the extra hour only adds random slow motion sequences very sparingly, which isn't very Snyderific of Snyder by the way, there is a relative decrease in random slow motion sequences in the movie, which is also an improvement.


 Overread wrote:
Jupiter Ascending is in that list of films for me which gets listed under being visually great to see; full of awesome visuals, good cinematography and a plot that isn't well put together. If anything it suffers a greater crime than just being a bad plot in being a fairly non-memorable plot.

It also feels like its aimed at a younger audience which can sometimes explain why plots end up watery thin; but could also just be that more than half the film is laying on the cuttingroom floor.


I'm not sure I remember those awesome visuals. What i do remember distinctly is two action scenes in which the CGI was so cluttered that I couldn't see what was going on and eagerly awaited for them to end. I can't say for sure if those where the only two such scenes. But they definitely left such an overwhelming, bad impression that they ruined the movie for me all by themselves.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yeah, but those scenes in Battleship Effing ROCK, so it gets a pass.

Also the ship in the real world is still taken out for excursions once in a while, so taking it out on the seas isn’t inherently daft.

Plus the old boys clearly having a great time are real Navy Vets, clearly having a great time.


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Oh 100% true - its stupid but its also got that "action flick from the 80s" charm to it that makes it work.

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It’s definitely up there on my favourite bad movie list.

I think it’s because they just go with it. I mean, it’s a movie version of the Battleship boardgames. Which I happen to be worryingly good at. But as a source for a movie? That’s pretty thin.

Yet what we get us, ultimately, far better than it has any right to be.

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Honestly part of it works because its not based on an actual story or lore or book or such. There isn't anything for them to get "wrong". They don't skip parts out or miss things or change a characters background/motivations/ethnicity/gender etc....

It's the kind of action flick I wish they'd do more of because they can just go with the flow of what they create. There's no pre-existing baggage for the audience; no disappointments

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